AVAO wrote: ↑Sun Sep 29, 2024 12:04 pm
Thank you for the interesting question and discussion.
The galaxy is indeed very distorted, which in my opinion is not only due to the existence of NGC 1097A.
I also looked at Hubble's zoom on NGC 1097A and have to admit that it does not allow any clear statement, except that NGC 1097A is an elliptical galaxy with a completely different morphology.
If you compare this image with the star clusters of NGC 1097 in the immediate vicinity of NGC 1097A, there is a lot to suggest that NGC 1097A must be much further away. For a mini galaxy in the immediate vicinity, this would be a completely new type of galaxy, which seems unlikely. For the double-shelled halo phenomenon I have no explanation.
Original Data: NASA/ESA (HST) F555w jac berne (flickr)
...My personal favorites...
NGC 1097 in the WISE dust map:
NGC 1097 core with JWST:
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Original data: NASA/ESA/CSA JWST MIRI F770w
Maybe, Jac, but you have not convinced me.
What we need to create a small galaxy shaped like NGC 1097A is a smallish barred galaxy that is interacting with a much larger bully of a galaxy until it loses its arms. We know for a fact that most smallish satellite galaxies interacting with large galaxies is that they are typically yellow, lacking in gas and non-starforming. The fact that the two largest satellites of the Milky Way, the Large and Small Magellanic Clouds, are so different, is clearly due to the fact that the Milky Way has only recently captured them.
NGC 1097 appears to have a broad stubby bar with no central core, which is indeed unusual. But there are certainly other smallish (but not dwarf) galaxies that have bars without a bright center. A very good example is the Large Magellanic Cloud. The LMC is not tiny, and most of its mass is probably concentrated in its bar.
Large and massive-looking NGC 5996 has a relatively short and stubby bar which however contains a bright mass center. But its smaller companion, NGC 5994, appears to have a bar that contains no core.
Another smallish (but not dwarf) galaxy that has a bar without a core is NGC 5068:
What I'm trying to say is that I don't think it's impossible for smallish galaxies to have substantial bars. I also think that small galaxies that interact with large massive galaxies for a long time are highly likely to lose their arms.
Ann