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APOD: The Pelican Nebula in Gas, Dust, and... (2023 Aug 07)
Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2023 4:06 am
by APOD Robot
The Pelican Nebula in Gas, Dust, and Stars
Explanation: The Pelican Nebula is slowly being transformed. IC 5070 (the official designation) is divided from the larger
North America Nebula by a
molecular cloud filled with dark
dust. The
Pelican, however, receives much study because it is a particularly active mix of
star formation and evolving gas clouds. The
featured picture was produced in three specific colors -- light emitted by
sulfur,
hydrogen, and
oxygen -- that can help us to better understand these interactions. The light from young energetic stars is slowly transforming the cold gas to hot gas, with the
advancing boundary between the two, known as an
ionization front, visible in bright orange on the right. Particularly dense
tentacles of cold gas remain. Millions of years from now, the
Pelican nebula, bounded by dark nebula
LDN 935, might no longer be known as the
Pelican, as the
balance and placement of stars and gas will surely leave something that appears
completely different.
Re: APOD: The Pelican Nebula in Gas, Dust, and... (2023 Aug 07)
Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2023 5:14 am
by Ann
The Pelican Nebula. Credit: Hunter Wilson.
It's kind of hard to spot the pelican in the Pelican Nebula in today's APOD! Okay, I'll help you:
Face of the Pelican. Credit: Giuseppe Donatiello
Face of the Pelican. Credit: Abe Jones.
Ann
Re: APOD: The Pelican Nebula in Gas, Dust, and... (2023 Aug 07)
Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2023 5:43 am
by Ann
The Pelican Nebula as a one-eyed space monster. Credit: Abe Jones.
The Pelican Nebula as a pelican. Credit: Hunter Wilson.
Ann
Re: APOD: The Pelican Nebula in Gas, Dust, and... (2023 Aug 07)
Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2023 12:35 pm
by Cousin Ricky
This image is mirror reversed.
Re: APOD: The Pelican Nebula in Gas, Dust, and... (2023 Aug 07)
Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2023 3:48 pm
by zendae1
Would the hydrogen and oxygen combine under the evolving conditions to form water? It is happening within the accretion disc of PDS 70, a very young star very close to the Solar System. Free floating water vapor just sitting there, in the Goldilocks zone. And two proto-planets forming there also, where the water is.
Re: APOD: The Pelican Nebula in Gas, Dust, and... (2023 Aug 07)
Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2023 8:55 pm
by johnnydeep
zendae1 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 3:48 pm
Would the hydrogen and oxygen combine under the evolving conditions to form water? It is happening within the accretion disc of PDS 70, a very young star very close to the Solar System. Free floating water vapor just sitting there, in the Goldilocks zone. And two proto-planets forming there also, where the water is.
Hmm, interesting question. We need a more knowledgeable responder than I am however. That said, I'd think this could indeed be how the ice that's present in the vast majority of comets is created, or at least one of the mechanisms of its creation.
Re: APOD: The Pelican Nebula in Gas, Dust, and... (2023 Aug 07)
Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2023 9:20 pm
by orin stepanek
Pelican's Future???? Pretty kitty!
![185px-Pelecanus_Philippensis.jpg](./download/file.php?id=48058&sid=38d90249ff389ffb1f493f99ef4751ed)
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I've seen these as far inland as Platte County here in Nebraska at Lake North!
Re: APOD: The Pelican Nebula in Gas, Dust, and... (2023 Aug 07)
Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2023 9:27 pm
by starsurfer
Cousin Ricky wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 12:35 pm
This image is mirror reversed.
I hate it when images are mirror reversed.
Re: APOD: The Pelican Nebula in Gas, Dust, and... (2023 Aug 07)
Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2023 9:28 pm
by starsurfer
I wish there was a Bumblebee Nebula.
Re: APOD: The Pelican Nebula in Gas, Dust, and... (2023 Aug 07)
Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2023 2:58 am
by Ann
zendae1 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 3:48 pm
Would the hydrogen and oxygen combine under the evolving conditions to form water? It is happening within the accretion disc of PDS 70, a very young star very close to the Solar System. Free floating water vapor just sitting there, in the Goldilocks zone. And two proto-planets forming there also, where the water is.
Water isn't rare in the Universe.
Forbes wrote:
In science fiction, when an advanced alien civilization visits Earth, they always want something. Often it's our precious water. Earth is a water-rich world, and (as far as we know) life depends upon water. But water isn't that rare in the cosmos. Water is made of hydrogen and oxygen. Hydrogen is by far the most abundant element, and Oxygen is the third most abundant. Number two is helium, which doesn't react chemically, so water is really common.
...
Recently a team studied the atmospheres of 19 exoplanets. These were large planets like Neptune or Jupiter, rather than smaller, Earth-like worlds. But it is the first survey to see how common water is on exoplanets. The team detected water on 14 of the worlds, which suggests that most exoplanets have water. This is what you would expect, given the molecule's abundance.
But the team also found something rather surprising. While water was often present, it wasn't typically abundant. This was true for a wide range of exoplanets, from hot Jupiters to much cooler worlds. So while water is common in the universe, it may tend to evaporate off planets. That would mean Earth is rather rare.
I would like to add that what sets the Earth apart from so many other planets is not that we have huge amounts of water, because we don't:
No, what makes the Earth so unusual is that our rather small amount of water is liquid and located on our planet's surface. On top of that, the Earth's surface is not completely covered in water, but there is land, too. This may turn out to be very unusual indeed.
Ann
Re: APOD: The Pelican Nebula in Gas, Dust, and... (2023 Aug 07)
Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2023 12:13 pm
by johnnydeep
Ann wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 2:58 am
zendae1 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 3:48 pm
Would the hydrogen and oxygen combine under the evolving conditions to form water? It is happening within the accretion disc of PDS 70, a very young star very close to the Solar System. Free floating water vapor just sitting there, in the Goldilocks zone. And two proto-planets forming there also, where the water is.
Water isn't rare in the Universe.
Forbes wrote:
In science fiction, when an advanced alien civilization visits Earth, they always want something. Often it's our precious water. Earth is a water-rich world, and (as far as we know) life depends upon water. But water isn't that rare in the cosmos. Water is made of hydrogen and oxygen. Hydrogen is by far the most abundant element, and Oxygen is the third most abundant. Number two is helium, which doesn't react chemically, so water is really common.
...
Recently a team studied the atmospheres of 19 exoplanets. These were large planets like Neptune or Jupiter, rather than smaller, Earth-like worlds. But it is the first survey to see how common water is on exoplanets. The team detected water on 14 of the worlds, which suggests that most exoplanets have water. This is what you would expect, given the molecule's abundance.
But the team also found something rather surprising. While water was often present, it wasn't typically abundant. This was true for a wide range of exoplanets, from hot Jupiters to much cooler worlds. So while water is common in the universe, it may tend to evaporate off planets. That would mean Earth is rather rare.
I would like to add that what sets the Earth apart from so many other planets is not that we have huge amounts of water, because we don't:
No, what makes the Earth so unusual is that our rather small amount of water is liquid and located on our planet's surface. On top of that, the Earth's surface is not completely covered in water, but there is land, too. This may turn out to be very unusual indeed.
Ann
Let me add that Wikipedia says:
And NASA says:
So, I'd call these atmospheric concentrations of water on Earth And Jupiter to be very similar.
Re: APOD: The Pelican Nebula in Gas, Dust, and... (2023 Aug 07)
Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2023 7:49 pm
by zendae1
"Water isn't rare in the Universe."
What is rare tho is, it is the first time water has been detected in the Goldilocks Zone at the same time and place as 2 protoplanets also in that Goldilocks Zone. I should have mentioned that.