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APOD: Mercury Meets Crescent Venus (2020 May 29)
Posted: Fri May 29, 2020 4:05 am
by APOD Robot
Mercury Meets Crescent Venus
Explanation: That's not a bright star and
crescent Moon caught between branches of a eucalyptus tree. It's Venus in a crescent phase and Mercury. Near the western horizon after sunset, the two inner planets closely shared this telescopic field of view on May 22, seen from a balcony in Civitavecchia, Italy.
Venus, the very bright celestial beacon, is wandering lower into the evening twilight. It grows larger in apparent size and shows a
thinner crescent as it heads toward its inferior conjunction, positioned between Earth and Sun on June 3.
Mercury, in a fuller phase, is climbing in the western sky though, reaching its maximum angular distance from the Sun on June 4 Still, this
remarkably close pairing with brilliant Venus made Mercury, usually lost in bright twilight skies, easier to spot from planet Earth.
Re: APOD: Mercury Meets Crescent Venus (2020 May 29)
Posted: Fri May 29, 2020 4:44 am
by Ann
Wow, the crescent of Venus! How often have we seen that in a widefield APOD?
And then Mercury is higher in the sky than Venus. That's funny and, I think, unusual too.
Great photo!
Ann
Re: APOD: Mercury Meets Crescent Venus (2020 May 29)
Posted: Fri May 29, 2020 10:47 am
by orin stepanek
Kudos to Marco Meniero! Beautiful Photo!
![Cool 8-)](./images/smilies/icon_cool.gif)
Re: APOD: Mercury Meets Crescent Venus (2020 May 29)
Posted: Fri May 29, 2020 1:33 pm
by gwrede
This is Venus in the picture. What explains the peculiar form?
Re: APOD: Mercury Meets Crescent Venus (2020 May 29)
Posted: Fri May 29, 2020 2:01 pm
by Chris Peterson
gwrede wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 1:33 pm
This is Venus in the picture. What explains the peculiar form?
It is overexposed and is therefore bloating (due to diffraction and scatter in the optics) towards a big blob.
Re: APOD: Mercury Meets Crescent Venus (2020 May 29)
Posted: Fri May 29, 2020 2:17 pm
by Tszabeau
Does anyone know what the object, visible in the full sized view, at approx. 5:00 of Mercury is?
Re: APOD: Mercury Meets Crescent Venus (2020 May 29)
Posted: Fri May 29, 2020 2:27 pm
by johnnydeep
Tszabeau wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 2:17 pm
Does anyone know what the object, visible in the full sized view, at approx. 5:00 of Mercury is?
I'm not finding what you are referring to. All I see is haze and trees all around both Mercury and Venus. How close to Mercury is it?
Re: APOD: Mercury Meets Crescent Venus (2020 May 29)
Posted: Fri May 29, 2020 2:53 pm
by Ann
gwrede wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 1:33 pm
This is Venus in the picture. What explains the peculiar form?
I'm sure you're not asking about the phases of Venus, but in any case, I thought we might take a look at what the phases of Venus look like.
Ann
Re: APOD: Mercury Meets Crescent Venus (2020 May 29)
Posted: Fri May 29, 2020 2:55 pm
by Chris Peterson
Ann wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 2:53 pm
gwrede wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 1:33 pm
This is Venus in the picture. What explains the peculiar form?
I'm sure you're not asking about the phases of Venus, but in any case, I thought we might take a look at what the pahses of Venus look like. 8-)
Ann
Yes... but they never look quite like
that!
Re: APOD: Mercury Meets Crescent Venus (2020 May 29)
Posted: Fri May 29, 2020 3:18 pm
by Tszabeau
johnnydeep wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 2:27 pm
Tszabeau wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 2:17 pm
Does anyone know what the object, visible in the full sized view, at approx. 5:00 of Mercury is?
I'm not finding what you are referring to. All I see is haze and trees all around both Mercury and Venus. How close to Mercury is it?
It’s about an inch below and to the right of Mercury as it first becomes visible when I zoom in on the hi-res view. It would be approx. 75” from Mercury in the low-res view, if it were visible at that resolution.
Re: APOD: Mercury Meets Crescent Venus (2020 May 29)
Posted: Fri May 29, 2020 4:34 pm
by johnnydeep
Tszabeau wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 3:18 pm
johnnydeep wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 2:27 pm
Tszabeau wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 2:17 pm
Does anyone know what the object, visible in the full sized view, at approx. 5:00 of Mercury is?
I'm not finding what you are referring to. All I see is haze and trees all around both Mercury and Venus. How close to Mercury is it?
It’s about an inch below and to the right of Mercury as it first becomes visible when I zoom in on the hi-res view. It would be approx. 75” from Mercury in the low-res view, if it were visible at that resolution.
If you mean this white pixel that's slightly bigger than all the other whitish noise, I suspect it's just more noise:
Re: APOD: Mercury Meets Crescent Venus (2020 May 29)
Posted: Fri May 29, 2020 10:44 pm
by Joe Stieber
I just noticed that today's (29-May-2020) APOD photographer, Marco Meniero, is also today's EPOD photographer!
https://epod.usra.edu/blog/2020/05/twil ... mical.html
Re: APOD: Mercury Meets Crescent Venus (2020 May 29)
Posted: Fri May 29, 2020 11:43 pm
by Chris Peterson
johnnydeep wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 4:34 pm
Tszabeau wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 3:18 pm
johnnydeep wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 2:27 pm
I'm not finding what you are referring to. All I see is haze and trees all around both Mercury and Venus. How close to Mercury is it?
It’s about an inch below and to the right of Mercury as it first becomes visible when I zoom in on the hi-res view. It would be approx. 75” from Mercury in the low-res view, if it were visible at that resolution.
If you mean this white pixel that's slightly bigger than all the other whitish noise, I suspect it's just more noise.
I think you're probably correct, given that when the image was made there were several brighter stars around Mercury than the one that was near the location of this spot... and they aren't showing up.
Re: APOD: Mercury Meets Crescent Venus (2020 May 29)
Posted: Sat May 30, 2020 1:45 am
by neufer
Chris Peterson wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 2:01 pm
gwrede wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 1:33 pm
This is Venus in the picture. What explains the peculiar form?
It is overexposed and is therefore bloating (due to diffraction and scatter in the optics) towards a big blob.
Re: APOD: Mercury Meets Crescent Venus (2020 May 29)
Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2020 5:31 pm
by gwrede
Ann wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 2:53 pm
gwrede wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 1:33 pm
This is Venus in the picture. What explains the peculiar form?
I'm sure you're not asking about the phases of Venus, but in any case, I thought we might take a look at what the phases of Venus look like.
Ann
Precisely, Ann. None of the phases look like my enlargement!
What it looks like is more like if Venus were eclipsed by a smaller body, which obviously can't be the case. Another poster seems to believe this is due to over-exposure, but that is too far off, both because of the form and because of the sharp contours.
All I am left with, is that this is a photoshop "enhancement", perhaps by somebody who didn't guess somebody would take a careful loook. -- Maybe he could see it with his bare eyes but it didn't come out in the picture, so he drew it.
I'd be very pleased to find out this was not the case, because such "doctoring" is not in the spirit of APOD standards and professionalism.
Re: APOD: Mercury Meets Crescent Venus (2020 May 29)
Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2020 10:46 pm
by Chris Peterson
gwrede wrote: ↑Sat Aug 01, 2020 5:31 pm
Ann wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 2:53 pm
gwrede wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 1:33 pm
This is Venus in the picture. What explains the peculiar form?
I'm sure you're not asking about the phases of Venus, but in any case, I thought we might take a look at what the phases of Venus look like. 8-)
Ann
Precisely, Ann. None of the phases look like my enlargement!
What it looks like is more like if Venus were eclipsed by a smaller body, which obviously can't be the case. Another poster seems to believe this is due to over-exposure, but that is too far off, both because of the form and because of the sharp contours.
All I am left with, is that this is a photoshop "enhancement", perhaps by somebody who didn't guess somebody would take a careful loook. -- Maybe he could see it with his bare eyes but it didn't come out in the picture, so he drew it.
I'd be very pleased to find out this was not the case, because such "doctoring" is not in the spirit of APOD standards and professionalism.
This is exactly what an overexposed, bloated Venus looks like. I've gotten similar images many times while adjusting the exposure.