Starship Asterisk*

APOD Robot wrote: Explanation: The best known asterism in northern skies, The Big Dipper is easy to recognize, even when viewed upside down, though some might see a plough or wagon.

Cousin Ricky wrote:

APOD Robot wrote: Explanation: The best known asterism in northern skies, The Big Dipper is easy to recognize, even when viewed upside down, though some might see a plough or wagon.

What is this expression “upside down” of which you write?

Chris Peterson wrote:

Cousin Ricky wrote:

APOD Robot wrote: Explanation: The best known asterism in northern skies, The Big Dipper is easy to recognize, even when viewed upside down, though some might see a plough or wagon.

What is this expression “upside down” of which you write?

Wouldn't an upside down dipper be one positioned such that it can't hold water?

APOD Robot wrote:
The best known asterism in northern skies, The Big Dipper is easy to recognize, even when viewed upside down, though some might see a plough or wagon.

• King Henry IV, part I : Act II, scene I
  
  [Enter a Carrier with a lantern in his hand]

• I'll be hanged: Charles' wain is over the new chimney,
  and yet our horse not packed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Dipper wrote:
<<Charles's Wain [or Charles his Wain] derived from the still older Carlswæn. A folk etymology holds that this derived from Charlemagne, but the name is common to all the Germanic languages and intended the churls' wagon (i.e., "the men's wagon"), in contrast with the women's wagon (the Little Dipper). An older "Odin's Wain" may have preceded these Nordic designations.>>

CURRAHEE CHRIS wrote:Is the comet still visible or has it left the building?

neufer wrote: <<Charles's Wain [or Charles his Wain] derived from the still older Carlswæn. A folk etymology holds that this derived from Charlemagne, but the name is common to all the Germanic languages and intended the churls' wagon (i.e., "the men's wagon"), in contrast with the women's wagon (the Little Dipper). An older "Odin's Wain" may have preceded these Nordic designations.>>

Ann wrote:

neufer wrote:

• King Henry IV, part I : Act II, scene I
  
  [Enter a Carrier with a lantern in his hand]

First Carrier: Heigh-ho! an it be not four by the day,

• I'll be hanged: Charles' wain is over the new chimney,
  and yet our horse not packed.

I like that Shakespeare quote!

• You mean the Oxford quote :

https://hankwhittemore.com/2014/02/12/the-gads-hill-robbery-an-episode-with-oxfords-men-in-1573-shows-up-in-henry-the-fourth-part-one-no-85-of-100-reasons-why-edward-de-vere-was-the-great-author/ wrote:

[b][color=#0000FF]Where Falstaff, Prince Hal and their pals attack & rob some travelers[/color][/b]

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<<On May 20-21, 1573, [when at 4 AM Charles' wain was in its low upright position over (a chimney on?) the horizon] three of Oxford’s servants helped him carry out an elaborate prank involving the robbery of two of the earl’s former employees. After lying in wait for them at Gad’s Hill, by the highway between Rochester and Gravesend, they jumped out of hiding – apparently led by Oxford himself, since the two men later described his “raging demeanor” as he led the mock assault like a wild man. The two men were traveling on state business for Oxford’s father-in-law William Cecil, Lord Treasurer Burghley, carrying money that would have been intended for the Exchequer.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1991/10/the-case-for-oxford/306478/ wrote:
<<In 1573 three of Oxford's rude companions staged a mock robbery (or possibly it was intended as a real one) of two men formerly employed by the boisterous young earl, "by the highway from Gravesend to Rochester," according to a letter of complaint that the victims promptly wrote to Burghley. In Henry IV, Part I, Falstaff and three of Prince Hal's companions hold up some travelers on the highway near Gadshill—which is on the highway between Gravesend and Rochester.>>

http://glennstorey.weebly.com/edward-de-vere.html wrote:
<<In 1573, some of the young earl's companions (with Oxford reputedly in their company) waylaid travelers on the road from Gravesend to Rochester—an episode uncannily similar to the scene in Shakespeare's Henry the Fourth, Part One where Falstaff and his companions assault the King's receivers. Amazingly, the Shakespearean account includes detail of this assault that corresponds to the circumstances involving Oxford's men down to the author's placement of Falstaff and his bandits on the very road where Oxford's men confronted the troupe ambushed in 1573.>>

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxfordian_theory_of_Shakespeare_authorship wrote:
<<In May 1573, in a letter to Lord Burghley, two of Oxford's former employees accused three of Oxford's friends of attacking them on "the highway from Gravesend to Rochester." In Shakespeare's Henry IV, Part 1, Falstaff and three roguish friends of Prince Hal also waylay unwary travellers at Gad's Hill, which is on the highway from Gravesend to Rochester. Scott McCrea says that there is little similarity between the two events, since the crime described in the letter is unlikely to have occurred near Gad's Hill and was not a robbery, but rather an attempted shooting. Mainstream writers also say that this episode derives from an earlier anonymous play, The Famous Victories of Henry V, which was Shakespeare's source. Oxfordians argue that The Famous Victories was written by Oxford, based on the exaggerated role it gave to the 11th Earl of Oxford.>>