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APOD: Comet ISON Being Destroyed by the Sun (2015 Nov 02)
Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2015 5:09 am
by APOD Robot
[img]http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/calendar/S_151102.jpg[/img] Comet ISON Being Destroyed by the Sun
Explanation: Most comets don't survive a close encounter with the Sun. Two years ago this month, though,
Comet ISON was thought by some to be big enough to withstand its perilous sungrazing dive. The
featured video shows the drama as it was recorded by NASA's
Solar and Heliospheric Observatory (SOHO) satellite. As many
Earthlings watched in fascination, a bright area
did emerge from closest approach, but it
soon faded and dispersed. It is now assumed that no large fragments of
Comet C/2012 S1 (ISON) survived. Besides the comet, the active Sun is seen to eject puffs of
plasma known as
coronal mass ejections. Launched in 1995,
sun-orbiting SOHO has become a historic device in the discovery and tracking of comets known as
sungrazers. Two months ago, a comet designated
SOHO 3000 was named in honor of the
record 3000th comet that was
discovered on SOHO images, a total that amounts to about half of all known comets.
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Re: APOD: Comet ISON Being Destroyed by the Sun (2015 Nov 02)
Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2015 6:30 am
by ShaileshS
What't the black gap we see from center to 2'o clock position on the masked sundial ?
Re: APOD: Comet ISON Being Destroyed by the Sun (2015 Nov 02)
Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2015 6:52 am
by BMAONE23
ShaileshS wrote:What't the black gap we see from center to 2'o clock position on the masked sundial ?
That is the occulter pylon that supports the solar occulter disk
http://lasco-www.nrl.navy.mil/index.php?p=content/intro
Re: APOD: Comet ISON Being Destroyed by the Sun (2015 Nov 02)
Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2015 9:42 am
by heehaw
Comet Bush!
Re: APOD: Comet ISON Being Destroyed by the Sun (2015 Nov 02)
Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2015 12:04 pm
by Hibernia
About half of all known comets? According to the MPC, the total number of comets is 3857, so that should in fact be 78% of all comets.
Re: APOD: Comet ISON Being Destroyed by the Sun (2015 Nov 02)
Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2015 12:36 pm
by Boomer12k
Maybe it just ran out of ice, and dust, and is just a "dead" body now? or did it totally disintegrate??? I ask as the videos show something coming out the other side, and fading...but not separating...
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Re: APOD: Comet ISON Being Destroyed by the Sun (2015 Nov 02)
Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2015 12:42 pm
by Edd
Is that Saturn crossing from left to right across the bottom?
Re: APOD: Comet ISON Being Destroyed by the Sun (2015 Nov 02)
Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2015 2:08 pm
by starsurfer
What filters were used to observe the Sun?
Re: APOD: Comet ISON Being Destroyed by the Sun (2015 Nov 02)
Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2015 2:09 pm
by Chris Peterson
Boomer12k wrote:Maybe it just ran out of ice, and dust, and is just a "dead" body now? or did it totally disintegrate??? I ask as the videos show something coming out the other side, and fading...but not separating...
As noted, it appears that no large fragments survived. The volatiles were lost and what presumably emerged was a pile of rocky rubble, some of which probably dissipated and some of which remains loosely bound, although that's likely to come apart over time and feed the sporadic meteor sources in our solar system.
Re: APOD: Comet ISON Being Destroyed by the Sun (2015 Nov 02)
Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2015 4:02 pm
by BMAONE23
Boomer12k wrote:Maybe it just ran out of ice, and dust, and is just a "dead" body now? or did it totally disintegrate??? I ask as the videos show something coming out the other side, and fading...but not separating...
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There once was a Comet named ISON
Twas promised "The best you'll lay Eyes on"
although near the end
it did brighten again
it fizzled out into a Bye-Gone
Re: APOD: Comet ISON Being Destroyed by the Sun (2015 Nov 02)
Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2015 6:43 pm
by neufer
Hibernia wrote:
About half of all known comets?
According to the MPC, the total number of comets is 3857, so that should in fact be 78% of all comets.
- 3857 appears to be the number of "Comets Discovered" through the MPC:
http://www.minorplanetcenter.org/ wrote:
Comets Discovered: 3857
<<The Minor Planet Center, or MPC, is the single worldwide location for receipt and distribution of positional measurements of minor planets, comets and outer irregular natural satellites of the major planets. The MPC is responsible for the identification, designation and orbit computation for all of these objects. This involves maintaining the master files of observations and orbits, keeping track of the discoverer of each object, and announcing discoveries to the rest of the world via electronic circulars and an extensive website. The MPC operates at the Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory, under the auspices of Division F of the International Astronomical Union (IAU).>>
Re: APOD: Comet ISON Being Destroyed by the Sun (2015 Nov 02)
Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2015 7:27 pm
by efahl
Edd wrote:Is that Saturn crossing from left to right across the bottom?
I wondered the same thing, since there don't appear to be diffraction spikes on anything else visible.
Re: APOD: Comet ISON Being Destroyed by the Sun (2015 Nov 02)
Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2015 7:41 pm
by Just Jackson
SOHO is 20 years old? Where does the time go?
SOHO's been sitting out in the solar wind for two decades. In the video, you can see charged particle 'sleet' on the sensor. This can't be good for the electronics. Are there any plans for a successor?
Re: APOD: Comet ISON Being Destroyed by the Sun (2015 Nov 02)
Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2015 8:05 pm
by stolenmoment
Is it just me, or does it look like the flare/mass ejection/whatever is the last straw that blows away the coma?
Re: APOD: Comet ISON Being Destroyed by the Sun (2015 Nov 02)
Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2015 8:22 pm
by Chris Peterson
stolenmoment wrote:Is it just me, or does it look like the flare/mass ejection/whatever is the last straw that blows away the coma?
Probably not. I don't know for sure, but most likely the ejection didn't even hit the comet- we're seeing it in front of or behind the remnants.
Re: APOD: Comet ISON Being Destroyed by the Sun (2015 Nov 02)
Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2015 8:29 pm
by Chris Peterson
Edd wrote:Is that Saturn crossing from left to right across the bottom?
No, it's the star Antares (alpha Scorpius).
Re: APOD: Comet ISON Being Destroyed by the Sun (2015 Nov 02)
Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2015 11:18 pm
by hamilton1
neufer wrote:3857 appears to be the number of "Comets Discovered" through the MPC
Yes maybe they just haven't got round to cataloging all the Soho discoveries -
Here's a list of Last Observation dates:
http://www.minorplanetcenter.net/iau/li ... etObs.html
and an historical list, including hundreds of Sohos:
https://www.ast.cam.ac.uk/~jds/cbat140.txt
Re: APOD: Comet ISON Being Destroyed by the Sun (2015 Nov 02)
Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2015 9:28 pm
by DavidLeodis
In the information brought up through the "video" link in the explanation it states of the video "Published on Oct 30, 2015. Credit: NASA, SOHO Observatory. Occurred in 2014 November", but at least the "Occurred in 2014 November" is wrong as the event was in November 2013 (as noted on the video and indicated in the explanation). I thought I would mention the error so that someone may be able to correct it, as it is confusing.
Re: APOD: Comet ISON Being Destroyed by the Sun (2015 Nov 02)
Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2015 9:31 pm
by geckzilla
If you want it to be corrected, you'll have to email them directly. I doubt the caretaker of their website looks at this forum.
Re: APOD: Comet ISON Being Destroyed by the Sun (2015 Nov 02)
Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2015 10:30 pm
by DavidLeodis
geckzilla wrote:If you want it to be corrected, you'll have to email them directly. I doubt the caretaker of their website looks at this forum.
Wow that was a quick response geckzilla
.
I'm surprised that at least the SOHO media people have apparently not noticed the error. I will however take it no further.