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East of Antares (APOD 23 Jun 2006)

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 6:22 pm
by orin stepanek
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap060623.html
Look at all these stars. It's hard to imagine that every one of these is a bonafide sun. How could anyone possibly get an accurate count of the billions of stars in the Milky Way? :roll:
Orin

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 7:53 pm
by Wadsworth
Well one could start with a project like the 2MASS.

East of Antares

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 11:09 pm
by dougal
To me the gestalt view I get is of a Dragon head breathing out black fire
when turning back over its left shoulder.

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 11:43 pm
by harry
Hello All

I'm going to start counting,,,,,,double check and make sure the count is right.


You never know someone may take one.

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info on the centre of the Milky Way Kid

Journey to the Center of the Galaxy
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap040411.html

The Galactic Center Radio Arc
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap050403.html

At the Center of the Milky Way
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap051023.html


http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/a ... 20111.html

Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 1:13 am
by orin stepanek
here's some more interesting data about the Milky Way.

http://cassfos02.ucsd.edu/public/tutorial/MW.html

Orin

Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 2:18 am
by harry
Hello Orin
Nice
Thanks mate

I'm still amazed at the info we can get over the net.

I keep on reading and the more I read the less I know.

Sometimes I think my ideas are here one day gone the next.

Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 5:21 pm
by orin stepanek
Wadsworth wrote:Well one could start with a project like the 2MASS.
with twohundred fifty million stars cataloged; I bet they are numbered rather than named. Wonder if they made a map?
Orin

Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 1:08 am
by harry
Hello

Anything with google I'm unable to search

Yes there is a map.

Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 2:21 pm
by orin stepanek
harry wrote:Hello

Anything with google I'm unable to search

Yes there is a map.
Here's one! :lol:
http://members.aol.com/grewsomeco/map.htm

Orin

Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 4:55 pm
by BMAONE23
Orin,
I like the map :wink:

Haven't seen it before (and me being a Trek fan)

It would be interesting to see it with the Voyager updates. (including Borg occupied systems)

Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 2:03 am
by orin stepanek
BMAONE23!
I've been a Trek fan forever; That was the first I saw of the map also. I found it surfing for a galactic map after Harry said there was one. There are probably more and better maps out there; I'm sure.
Orin

Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 11:51 am
by harry
Hello All

I have been a tek fan before it started.


There was nother show way before it.

Trying to think.

Buck Rogers????????

This was early 1960.

Looking at the scenes now,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,they are so funny.
Than our eyes were clued to the TV.

I remember dad saving for one year to buy a TV. These days are a dime a dozen.

This leads on to PLASMA TV,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,smile

Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 11:52 pm
by orin stepanek
Don't forget Flash Gordon! Do you remember Forbidden Planet; and The Day The World Stood Still. Ya Harry, I'm an old f--- also.
By the way here is another map that may be interesting.
http://www.ras.ucalgary.ca/CGPS/where/plan/
Orin

Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 3:32 pm
by orin stepanek
http://www.solstation.com/stars/s10ly.htm

This is the part of the Milky Way that man will probably visit first if he can ever concur the time problem with space travel. The very nearest neighborhood.
Orin

Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 7:00 am
by harry
Hello Orin

Smile,,,,,,,,,,,,,how old is the hill?


So you remember Flash Gordon.

Smile,,,,,,,,,,,,,look up Flesh Gordon its an erotic comedy.

Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2006 1:44 pm
by orin stepanek
Wadsworth wrote:Well one could start with a project like the 2MASS.
2Mass sounds like a life long project. Looking into this link shows that it is a worthwhile project with over 250,000,000 stars already categorized.
Orin

Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 9:07 pm
by DavidLeodis
I've just been looking at this APOD and I'm confused by something. The APOD title and in the explanation refer to 'East of Antares'. However, in the image in Johannes Schedler's website (brought up through the 'and expansive view' link) it refers to the image as being west of Antares. I've tried looking at constellation and star maps diagrams, but I'm still confused. The orientation of the APOD and the image in the website is the same (in Johannes website it states North is up but it unfortunately does not state which is East, as it could be reversed and so be on the left).

I would be grateful if somebody could inform me (and possibly explain) if the image shows the scene to the east or west of Antares. I could try contacting Johannes, but I thought I would ask the knowledgeable forum folk. :) Thanks.

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 2:41 am
by rigelan
According to Kstars, it is 13 degrees directly east of Antares. (the width of your fist at arms length is around 10 degrees). So add an extra finger :-) It is in the constellation Ophiuchi. Seeing as the width of the picture is around 10 degrees, Just add another full screen to the side, and Antares should be in view.

Edit: that is of course, If they named the appropriate nebulas in the text.

Edit #2: That middle star in the triad is 44 Ophiuchi, and I believe up is north, left is east, right is west. The middle star is actually part of the constellation, but unfortunately, I cannot find any good maps either.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Ophi ... on_map.png

On the very bottom tip of the Constellation, there is a greek letter I cannot decipher. That is middle star of the triad.

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 3:15 am
by rigelan
Image. I cut the part of that png from wikipedia that corresponds to the APOD picture.

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 5:48 am
by Qev
That would be Upsilon Ophiuchi, I'd guess. Astronomers, and scientists in general, are addicted to the Greek alphabet. :lol:

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 10:22 am
by DavidLeodis
Thanks rigelan. Your help is much appreciated.

You're right Qev. They do like using the Greek alphabet. :)

Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 3:07 pm
by rigelan
Yeah, I feel silly :oops: I know most of the greek letters, that one just boggled me. It wasn't a familiar font of it I guess. Thanks. I'm glad it helped.