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22 degree halo x 2/3?

Post by Dodd » Fri Mar 21, 2014 6:11 pm

Here's a 22 degree halo with a couple of twists that I cannot find an answer to. Note that the "main" halo around the sun seems to be a double. Also note the separate -- and seemingly larger than 22 degrees and without the rainbow effect -- halo to the right of the main one. Thoughts?

The shot was taken on 3.21.14 around 1 pm in Columbus, GA, USA.
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Adding one more shot that shows double 22 degree halo a little better. I wonder if there are two separate layers of ice crystals?
Adding one more shot that shows double 22 degree halo a little better. I wonder if there are two separate layers of ice crystals?
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Thanks for the replies. G, here's the only good non-pano I got that shows the outer ring. Thoughts?
Thanks for the replies. G, here's the only good non-pano I got that shows the outer ring. Thoughts?
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Re: 22 degree halo x 2/3?

Post by BMAONE23 » Fri Mar 21, 2014 7:20 pm

Here is an interesting WIKI article on Solar Halo Phenomena

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Re: 22 degree halo x 2/3?

Post by geckzilla » Fri Mar 21, 2014 7:31 pm

I think Dodd knows what this halo is, B. The point is that it's oddly distorted. Personally, I'm having trouble understanding how distorted it actually was in the sky versus what the photographic panorama did to it.
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Re: 22 degree halo x 2/3?

Post by Dodd » Sat Mar 22, 2014 12:42 am

Thanks for the replies. Please check out my edit of the original post. I added a non-panoramic photo that might help with perspective. Thoughts?
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Re: 22 degree halo x 2/3?

Post by geckzilla » Sat Mar 22, 2014 1:03 am

I think that faint one might just be a cloud which happens to look arc-like. It looks something like a parahelic arc but doesn't match up. If you haven't already, check out frequent halos and infrequent arcs.
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Post by geckzilla » Sat Mar 22, 2014 1:06 am

Oh, maybe it is a parahelic circle. I was unaware that the size shrinks when the sun is high. How does this look to you? http://www.atoptics.co.uk/halo/pchigh.htm
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Re: 22 degree halo x 2/3?

Post by Dodd » Sat Mar 22, 2014 1:57 pm

Parhelic arc! That has to be it! Thanks, G!

I edited the original post and added one more shot that shows double 22 degree halo a little better. I wonder if there are two separate layers of ice crystals?

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Re: 22 degree halo x 2/3?

Post by geckzilla » Sat Mar 22, 2014 4:48 pm

Running HaloSim, it predicts the same shape will appear when the sun is about 60 degrees above the horizon. So, nothing unusual to report, here.
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