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APOD: Comet McNaught Over Chile (2013 Jan 27)
Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 5:06 am
by APOD Robot
Comet McNaught Over Chile
Explanation: Comet McNaught of 2007 has been, so far, the most photogenic comet of our time. After making
quite a show in the northern hemisphere in early 2007 January, the comet moved south and developed a
long and unusual dust tail that
dazzled southern hemisphere observers. In this image,
Comet McNaught was captured above
Santiago,
Chile. The bright comet dominates on the left while part of its magnificent tail spreads across the entire frame. From this vantage point in the Andes Mountains, one looks up toward
Comet McNaught and a magnificent sky, across at a crescent moon, and down on clouds, atmospheric
haze, and the city lights. The current year -- 2013 -- holds promise to be even better for comets than 2007. In early March,
Comet PANSTARRS is on
track to become visible to the unaided eye, while at the end of the year
Comet ISON shows possibilities that include casting a
tail that spreads across the sky,
breaking up, and even becoming one of the
brightest comets in recorded history.
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Re: APOD: Comet McNaught Over Chile (2013 Jan 27)
Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 5:37 am
by stephen63
What a beautiful scene! I'm really looking forward to Comet ISON making an appearance later on. I remember getting up in the middle of the night to see Comet Kohoutek.
Unfortunately, it didn't live up to the hype.
Re: APOD: Comet McNaught Over Chile (2013 Jan 27)
Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 5:48 am
by Boomer12k
Hopefully they will be in months with clear weather, and I get out the scope. Maybe, finally get a picture!!!!
Nice, beautiful image today!!!
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Re: APOD: Comet McNaught Over Chile (2013 Jan 27)
Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 6:14 am
by Ann
APOD Robot wrote, on January 26, 2013:
when stars get hairy
http://adsg.syix.com/linda/cecilia/comets.htm
Since the beginning of history people have seen comets appear in the night sky, rising and setting with the stars. The ancient Greeks called them "hairy stars", and the name "comet" comes from the Greek word for hair. This is because the tail of a comet was thought to look like long hair streaming from a woman's head.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coma_Berenices wrote:
Coma Berenices is a traditional asterism that has since been defined as one of the 88 modern constellations. It is located near Leo, to which it formerly belonged, and accommodates the North Galactic Pole. Its name means "Berenice's Hair" (in Greek, via Latin), and refers to the legend of Queen Berenice II of Egypt, who sacrificed her long hair.
...
Coma Berenices is one of the few constellations to owe its name to a historical figure, in this case Queen Berenice II of Egypt, wife of Ptolemy III Euergetes (fl. 246 BC–221 BC), the king under whom Alexandria became an important cultural center.
![Image](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/44/Head_Berenike_II_Glyptothek_Munich.jpg/158px-Head_Berenike_II_Glyptothek_Munich.jpg)
Berenike II. Source: Wikipedia
In 243 BC, during the Third Syrian War, Ptolemy undertook a dangerous expedition against the Seleucids, who had murdered his sister. His newlywed bride, Berenice, swore to the goddess Aphrodite to sacrifice her long, blonde hair, of which she was extremely proud, if her husband returned safely. He did, so she cut her hair and placed it in the goddess's temple. By the next morning the hair had disappeared.
![Image](http://imgsrc.hubblesite.org/hu/db/images/hs-2008-24-e-small_web.jpg)
Coma Berenices.
Source:hs-2008-24-e-small_web.jpg
hubblesite.org
To appease the furious king the court astronomer, Conon, announced that the offering had so pleased the goddess that she had placed it in the sky. He indicated a cluster of stars that have since been called Berenice's Hair.[1]
This incident inspired the court poet Callimachus of Cyrene to write a poem entitled Βερενίκης πλόκαμος (Greek "Berenice's braid"). About 2/3 of the Greek original is now lost, but the full version was translated to Latin by the Roman poet Catullus, and his version exists to this day.
Ann
Re: APOD: Comet McNaught Over Chile (2013 Jan 27)
Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 6:49 am
by Maxciej Soltynski
May I advise that C/2012 F6 (Lemmon) is already a binocular object in Crux, and derserves a mention as well.
Best regards, Maciej
Re: APOD: Comet McNaught Over Chile (2013 Jan 27)
Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 7:39 am
by FLPhotoCatcher
Does sunlight push the comet's dust, or only the particles from the sun? If sunlight, does that mean that light has mass? Does light make it's own gravity? Does a magnetic field weigh anything?
Re: APOD: Comet McNaught Over Chile (2013 Jan 27)
Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 12:15 pm
by Joe Stieber
Based on the phase and position of the moon, this APOD was taken on January 20, 2007, when the moon was about 2 days old and 5% illuminated. It was in the constellation Capricornus, the Sea Goat. Venus was just below-left of the moon, but obscured by clouds in this view.
The bright star above-right of the picture’s center (above-left of the moon) is 1st magnitude Fomalhaut, Alpha Piscis Austrini (in Piscis Austrinus, the Southern Fish). This star is easily visible from mid-northern latitudes. Above the comet’s arching tail, the pair of brighter stars in a slightly tilted vertical line are 2nd magnitude Alpha and Beta Gruis (in Grus, the Crane). Beta is the upper star, Alpha the lower. The brighter star to the left of the comet’s tail is 3nd magnitude Alpha Indi (in Indus, the Indian).
I remember comet C/2006 P1 (McNaught) well. I saw it on four occasions in early January 2007, before perihelion on January 12 (after which it headed south and out of our view). It was amazing to be able to see a comet so easily that was so low in bright twilight. However, where I live in New Jersey, we had a stretch of cloudy weather around perihelion that precluded any chance of seeing in the daytime.
We also didn’t get to see the spectacular tail like the folks in the Southern Hemisphere, although it was long enough that some northern photographers and keen-eyed observers caught faint wisps of the tail. The orbit of comet C/2012 S1 (ISON) favors the Northern Hemisphere, so hopefully, we northerners will get lucky in late 2013 and see a similarly spectacular tail, and maybe even spot it during the daytime (knock on wood!).
Re: APOD: Comet McNaught Over Chile (2013 Jan 27)
Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 1:16 pm
by orin stepanek
Re: APOD: Comet McNaught Over Chile (2013 Jan 27)
Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 2:18 pm
by neufer
FLPhotoCatcher wrote:
Does sunlight push the comet's dust, or only the particles from the sun?
Sunlight pushes the comet's dust with a radiation force that drops off with the square of the distance. Since this emulates a negative solar gravity the individual particles end up orbiting in ellipses/parabolas/hyperbolas which differ from that of the comet nucleus.
Solar wind pushes cometary ions away much more vigorously such that the ion tail points almost directly away from the sun.
FLPhotoCatcher wrote:
If sunlight, does that mean that light has mass.
Photons have a mass equal to their energy (
![Image](http://upload.wikimedia.org/math/d/0/7/d07def13d6f88776fe72fd064c75f820.png)
) divided by the speed of light squared.
It is just that photons have no
rest mass (because they have no
rest).
FLPhotoCatcher wrote:
Does light make it's own gravity?
Yes.
FLPhotoCatcher wrote:
Does a magnetic field weigh anything?
Yes:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comet#Coma_and_tail wrote:
<<In the outer Solar System, comets remain frozen and are extremely difficult or impossible to detect from Earth due to their small size. Statistical detections of inactive comet nuclei in the Kuiper belt have been reported from the Hubble Space Telescope observations, but these detections have been questioned, and have not yet been independently confirmed. As a comet approaches the inner Solar System, solar radiation causes the volatile materials within the comet to vaporize and stream out of the nucleus, carrying dust away with them. The streams of dust and gas thus released form a huge, extremely tenuous atmosphere around the comet called the coma, and the force exerted on the coma by the Sun's radiation pressure and solar wind cause an enormous tail to form, which points away from the Sun.
Both the coma and tail are illuminated by the Sun and may become visible from Earth when a comet passes through the inner Solar System, the dust reflecting sunlight directly and the gases glowing from ionisation. Most comets are too faint to be visible without the aid of a telescope, but a few each decade become bright enough to be visible to the naked eye. Occasionally a comet may experience a huge and sudden outburst of gas and dust, during which the size of the coma temporarily greatly increases. This happened in 2007 to Comet Holmes.
The streams of dust and gas each form their own distinct tail, pointing in slightly different directions. The tail of dust is left behind in the comet's orbit in such a manner that it often forms a curved tail called the type II or dust tail. At the same time, the ion or type I tail, made of gases, always points directly away from the Sun, as this gas is more strongly affected by the solar wind than is dust, following magnetic field lines rather than an orbital trajectory. On occasions a short tail pointing in the opposite direction to the ion and dust tails may be seen – the antitail. These were once thought somewhat mysterious, but are merely the end of the dust tail apparently projecting ahead of the comet due to our viewing angle.
While the solid nucleus of comets is generally less than 50 km across, the coma may be larger than the Sun, and ion tails have been observed to extend one astronomical unit (150 million km) or more. The observation of antitails contributed significantly to the discovery of solar wind. The ion tail is formed as a result of the photoelectric effect[dubious – discuss] of solar ultra-violet radiation acting on particles in the coma. Once the particles have been ionized, they attain a net positive electrical charge, which in turn gives rise to an "induced magnetosphere" around the comet. The comet and its induced magnetic field form an obstacle to outward flowing solar wind particles. As the relative orbital speed of the comet and the solar wind is supersonic, a bow shock is formed upstream of the comet, in the flow direction of the solar wind. In this bow shock, large concentrations of cometary ions (called "pick-up ions") congregate and act to "load" the solar magnetic field with plasma, such that the field lines "drape" around the comet forming the ion tail.
If the ion tail loading is sufficient, then the magnetic field lines are squeezed together to the point where, at some distance along the ion tail, magnetic reconnection occurs. This leads to a "tail disconnection event". This has been observed on a number of occasions, one notable event being recorded on April 20, 2007, when the ion tail of Encke's Comet was completely severed while the comet passed through a coronal mass ejection. This event was observed by the STEREO space probe.
Comets were found to emit X-rays in 1996. This greatly surprised astronomers, because X-ray emission is usually associated with very high-temperature bodies. The X-rays are generated by the interaction between comets and the solar wind: when highly charged solar wind ions fly through a cometary atmosphere, they collide with cometary atoms and molecules, "stealing" one or more electrons from the atom in a process called "charge exchange". This exchange or transfer of an electron to the solar wind ion is followed by its de-excitation into the ground state of the ion, leading to the emission of X-rays and far ultraviolet photons.>>
Re: APOD: Comet McNaught Over Chile (2013 Jan 27)
Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 3:23 pm
by Chris Peterson
FLPhotoCatcher wrote:If sunlight, does that mean that light has mass? Does light make it's own gravity?
As Art explained, light does have mass, since mass and energy are equivalent. In the case of photons, however, the analysis doesn't typically involve mass, but momentum. The physical pressure that photons exert is the result of a transfer of momentum. In quantum mechanics, the momentum of a photon is inversely proportional to its wavelength. Of course, in classical mechanics, momentum is just the mass times the velocity, and even though photons aren't strictly described by classical mechanics, we can see here a connection between photons and what we generally describe as mass.
Re: APOD: Comet McNaught Over Chile (2013 Jan 27)
Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 3:53 pm
by ritwik
C/2011 L4 (PANSTARRS) most likely originated in the Oort cloud, a cloud of cometlike objects located in the distant outer solar system. It was probably
gravitationally disturbed by a distant passing star ![Shocked :shock:](./images/smilies/icon_eek.gif)
, sending it on a long journey toward the sun
1.
Re: APOD: Comet McNaught Over Chile (2013 Jan 27)
Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 5:04 pm
by MargaritaMc
Joe Stieber wrote:
The bright star above-right of the picture’s center (above-left of the moon) is 1st magnitude Fomalhaut, Alpha Piscis Austrini (in Piscis Austrinus, the Southern Fish). This star is easily visible from mid-northern latitudes. Above the comet’s arching tail, the pair of brighter stars in a slightly tilted vertical line are 2nd magnitude Alpha and Beta Gruis (in Grus, the Crane). Beta is the upper star, Alpha the lower. The brighter star to the left of the comet’s tail is 3nd magnitude Alpha Indi (in Indus, the Indian).
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Thank you for this info, Joe. I had been struggling with sky maps and a terrestrial atlas trying to work out just that!
I regularly saw both Formalhaut and the two brightest stars of Grus when I very first began looking upwards - it was a great thrill to " discover" for myself some stars that hitherto I had never heard of.
Margarita
PS And to discover that I see real live cranes also flying overhead here.
Re: APOD: Comet McNaught Over Chile (2013 Jan 27)
Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 5:24 pm
by Ann
Yes, thanks a lot, Joe! And to think that Fomalhaut is yet another of the sky's blue stars - because to me A-type stars are blue - that is remarkable in some way. In Fomalhaut's case, it is remarkable in that it has a planet that has been directly imaged by Hubble! See
this and
this.
Ann
Re: APOD: Comet McNaught Over Chile (2013 Jan 27)
Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 5:30 pm
by ChicagoAstronomerJoe
Fellow Astronomers...
I anticipate the incoming comets for 2013, especially in Chicago skies, but always cringe at the hype of "Brighter than the Moon" or "So bright to enable daylight viewing".
The propagation of such within the astronomical community is misleading and most likely will not live up to the build....considering the fickleness of comets and reflecting upon all of us.
Let's hope for a grand showing, but really, never brighter than the Moon for the average viewer.
Chicago Astronomer Joe
The Lonely Linking Star of Autumn
Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 6:38 pm
by neufer
Ann wrote:
In Fomalhaut's case, it is remarkable in that it has a planet that has been directly imaged by Hubble! See
this and
this.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fomalhaut wrote:
<<Fomalhaut (Alpha Piscis Austrini, α PsA) is the brightest star in the constellation Piscis Austrinus and one of the brightest stars in the sky. Fomalhaut can be seen low in the southern sky in the northern hemisphere in fall and early winter evenings or all year round in the southern hemisphere. Another name in Western use is "the Lonely Star of Autumn", because it is the only first-magnitude star in the autumn sky of mid-northern latitudes. Fomalhaut/Earthwork B in
Mounds State Park near Anderson, Indiana lines up with the rising of the star Fomalhaut in the fall months, according to the Indiana Department of Natural Resources.
In Walter Tevis' (1983) novel The Steps of the Sun , Fomalhaut is visited by the protagonist and two potentially inhabitable planets are found (and described). Parts of Philip K Dick's 1964 novel _
The Unteleported Man_ are set on the fictional planet Fomalhaut IX.
Fomalhaut is a member of the 16 stars belonging to the
Castor Moving Group. This is an association of stars that share a common motion through space and have been claimed to be physically associated. Other members of this group include Castor and Vega. This moving group has an estimated age of 200±100 million years and originated from the same location.
The star has been recognized by many cultures of the northern hemisphere, including the Arabs, Persians and Chinese. It marked the solstice in 2500 BC. It was also a marker for the worship of Demeter in Eleusis. Ptolemy put it in Aquarius as well as Piscis Austrinus. Following Ptolemy, Flamsteed in 1725 denoted it 79 Aquarii as well as 24 Piscis Austrini.
The name Fom al-Haut comes from scientific Arabic فم الحوت fam al-ħūt (al-janūbī) "the mouth of the [Southern] Fish". The Latin names are ōs piscis merīdiāni, ōs piscis merīdionālis, ōs piscis notii "the mouth of the Southern Fish". The name Difda al Auwel comes from the colloquial Arabic الضفدع الأول aḍ-ḍifdiˤ al-’awwal "the first frog" (the second frog is Beta Ceti).>>
Re: APOD: Comet McNaught Over Chile (2013 Jan 27)
Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 10:27 pm
by fausto.lubatti
Wonderful picture! I hope a similar view can be seen from northern hemisphere in the future...
![Very Happy :D](./images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif)
Re: APOD: Comet McNaught Over Chile (2013 Jan 27)
Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 12:34 am
by Sinan İpek
Why are there streaks all pointing at the Sun in the comet's tail.
My hypothesis: While the comet is orbiting around the sun, the sun's wind varies in its intensity, hence the comet's tail gets brighter and dimmer according to it. Is that true?
Re: APOD: Comet McNaught Over Chile (2013 Jan 27)
Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 1:03 am
by Chris Peterson
Sinan İpek wrote:Why are there streaks all pointing at the Sun in the comet's tail.
My hypothesis: While the comet is orbiting around the sun, the sun's wind varies in its intensity, hence the comet's tail gets brighter and dimmer according to it. Is that true?
The streaks are pointing
away from the Sun, and are dust trails blown off the comet mainly by radiation pressure, not the solar wind. As the dust is pushed outwards, it finds itself in a larger radius orbit, and therefore moves more slowly, which is part of what makes the cometary path look so curved (it's also curved simply because of the projection of its orbit). As you get farther away from the coma, you're seeing dust that was blown off earlier in its orbit, so the streaks are longer and less dense. The variation in density occurs because comets don't typically outgas uniformly, but rather in series of eruptions. So as it neared the Sun and warmed up, there were periods with only a small amount of dust and gas being ejected, and other periods of high activity.
Re: APOD: Comet McNaught Over Chile (2013 Jan 27)
Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 2:20 am
by stephen63
Chris Peterson wrote:
As Art explained, light does have mass, since mass and energy are equivalent. In the case of photons, however, the analysis doesn't typically involve mass, but momentum. The physical pressure that photons exert is the result of a transfer of momentum. In quantum mechanics, the momentum of a photon is inversely proportional to its wavelength. Of course, in classical mechanics, momentum is just the mass times the velocity, and even though photons aren't strictly described by classical mechanics, we can see here a connection between photons and what we generally describe as mass.
So it seems that light exhibits both particle and wave properties, Wave–particle duality(Wiki). What I always fail to grasp is the ENTIRE electromagnetic spectrum. Please bear with me! At the long wavelength end are Radio waves and the short wavelength end are Gamma rays. Somewhere in between lies the visible spectrum. So, at what point or frequency do EM waves suddenly become photons? It seems to me like I'm comparing apples to oranges. But, not completely, because light also behaves like an EM wave in the double-slit experiment.
Re: APOD: Comet McNaught Over Chile (2013 Jan 27)
Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 2:49 am
by Chris Peterson
stephen63 wrote:So it seems that light exhibits both particle and wave properties, Wave–particle duality(Wiki). What I always fail to grasp is the ENTIRE electromagnetic spectrum. Please bear with me! At the long wavelength end are Radio waves and the short wavelength end are Gamma rays. Somewhere in between lies the visible spectrum. So, at what point or frequency do EM waves suddenly become photons? It seems to me like I'm comparing apples to oranges. But, not completely, because light also behaves like an EM wave in the double-slit experiment.
Duality doesn't mean that electromagnetic energy is wave-like at some parts of the spectrum and particle-like at others. Photons are the particles that carry electromagnetic energy. This is as true for very short wave radiation like gamma rays, as for very long wavelength radiation like radio. Whether a particular wavelength of radiation seems to us more like a wave or a particle is really a consequence of the specific technology we use to generate or detect it. It's all photons.
Re: APOD: Comet McNaught Over Chile (2013 Jan 27)
Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 3:37 am
by stephen63
Thanks, Chris!
Re: APOD: Comet McNaught Over Chile (2013 Jan 27)
Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 4:01 am
by neufer
Chris Peterson wrote:
Duality doesn't mean that electromagnetic energy is wave-like at some parts of the spectrum and particle-like at others. Photons are the particles that carry electromagnetic energy. This is as true for very short wave radiation like gamma rays, as for very long wavelength radiation like radio. Whether a particular wavelength of radiation seems to us more like a wave or a particle is really a consequence of the specific technology we use to generate or detect it. It's all photons.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen_line wrote:
<<The hydrogen line, 21 centimeter line or HI line refers to the electromagnetic radiation spectral line that is created by a change in the energy state of neutral hydrogen atoms. This electromagnetic radiation is at the precise frequency of 1420.40575177 MHz, which is equivalent to the vacuum wavelength of 21.10611405413 cm in free space. This wavelength or frequency falls within the microwave radio region of the electromagnetic spectrum, and it is observed frequently in radio astronomy, since those radio waves can penetrate the large clouds of interstellar cosmic dust that are opaque to visible light.
The microwaves of the hydrogen line come from the atomic transition between the two hyperfine levels of the hydrogen 1s ground state with an energy difference of 5.87433 µeV. The frequency of the quanta that are emitted by this transition between two different energy levels is given by Planck's equation.>>
Re: APOD: Comet McNaught Over Chile (2013 Jan 27)
Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 10:44 pm
by cljohnston108
Ummm, in what universe is Australia in the Northern Hemisphere?
Re: APOD: Comet McNaught Over Chile (2013 Jan 27)
Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 10:50 pm
by geckzilla
cljohnston108 wrote:
Ummm, in what universe is Australia in the Northern Hemisphere?
Check out this page at the bottom:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C/2006_P1
There are several images of it in early January as viewed from the northern hemisphere and on as it progressed to the very long, showy tail in the southern hemisphere.
Re: APOD: Comet McNaught Over Chile (2013 Jan 27)
Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 12:57 pm
by 500pesos
That spacecraft that flew close enough to the nucleous of a comet - I'm terrible with names but you know what I mean - discovered that it is more of a dirty snowball than a snowy dirtball - or was it the other way round?
Anywho, if such a snowball was ever to collide with us, would we be in any danger, or would it vaporise way before it hit the surface? (I remember that other comet made a big splash when it hit Jupiter but, ok Jupiter is a bunch of clouds)
What I'm saying is, were the old folk any bit right in being afraid of comets or it was pure superstition?
(there's also the theory explaining this belief that comets may carry space germs which cause epidemics...)