Starship Asterisk*

Art wrote:
"X" never, ever marks the spot.

http://sixdayscience.wordpress.com/curr ... hapter-15/ wrote:
X marks the spot in the core of the Whirlpool Galaxy! The darkest bar may be the dust ring seen edge-on. The jet seen in wider fields of view is perpendicular to the darkest dust ring. The lighter bar may be another disk seen obliquely. A million solar mass black hole is thought to lurk at the center. Courtesy of Space Telescope Science Institute

Technogeek Again wrote:Uhm... Given the six-axis radiating lines on many of the other brighter spots in this image -- which look awfully like "lens flare" -- I'd be inclined to suspect that there's something similar going on with the center object, and the shape we're seeing is an artifact.
I presume there are other images which don't have those artifacts but do still show the "square".

do_japan wrote:I'm also curious about the 1st poster's observation of hexagonal lens flare on some of the smaller stars. Is there any possibility that lens flare or some other optical effect could be causing the square shape we are seeing?

Technogeek Again wrote:
Given the six-axis radiating lines on many of the other brighter spots in this image -- which look awfully like "lens flare" -- I'd be inclined to suspect that there's something similar going on with the center object, and the shape we're seeing is an artifact.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Square wrote:

[b][color=#0000FF][size=165]MOscOW[/size][/color] photo by Shuttle Expedition 30 crew on March 28, 2012.[/b]

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<<The Red Square (Russian: Красная площадь, tr. Krásnaja Plóščaď) is a city square in Moscow, Russia. The square separates the Kremlin, the former royal citadel and currently the official residence of the President of Russia, from a historic merchant quarter known as Kitai-gorod. The Red Square is often considered the central square of Moscow and all of Russia, because Moscow's major streets—which connect to Russia's major highways—originate from the square. The name Red Square comes neither from the colour of the bricks around it (which, in fact, were whitewashed at certain times in history) nor from the link between the colour red and communism. Rather, the name came about because the Russian word красная (krasnaya) can mean either "red" or "beautiful." This word, with the meaning "beautiful", was originally applied to Saint Basil's Cathedral and was subsequently transferred to the nearby square. It is believed that the square acquired its current name (replacing the older Pozhar, or "burnt-out place") in the 17th century. Several ancient Russian towns, such as Suzdal, Yelets, and Pereslavl-Zalessky, have their main square named Krasnaya ploshchad.>>

do_japan wrote:I'm also curious about the 1st poster's observation of hexagonal lens flare on some of the smaller stars. Is there any possibility that lens flare or some other optical effect could be causing the square shape we are seeing?

ritwik wrote:and the geometry of space around galaxies is also in 'cone' shape !! Hence when polar regions of galaxy eject materials it fills the space around galaxies and appear as cone shaped filaments !! concept of gravity is RIGHT !! :idea:

Zoomer wrote:The way I see this image of MWC 922, and the 1/7/ 2007 APOD of 1987A as well, is that the central object has exploded and collapsed into a small, very dense, rapidly rotating and beam emitting mass. Some factor, possibly the asymmetry of the explosion, has caused the spin axis to mismatch with the beam axis. Therefore when seen from our perspective of MWC 922 directly above the equator of it’s spin, emitted beams would appear as two cones.
The brighter ring seen in 1987A may also be a double. But that was taken when the remnant was very young and it may be that the viewing angle is such that we cannot yet see this until a later time. IF this is true, then it will fit well with what I think is going on in MWC 922.
So, I think the ring(s) in 1987A and the two bright lines in MWC 922 at the extent of the central bright area may be caused by a surge of matter/energy emitted by the jets when a large amount of material ejected in the original nova fell back onto the central object in a bombardment event.
As for the diffraction spikes, yes I see them in the remnant as well as the other bright objects in the image. But they do not line up with either axis (equatorial or spin) of MWC 922, only with each other. And the fact that the image is a composite from two different and widely spaced instruments makes no difference in my opinion.

http://www.physics.usyd.edu.au/~gekko/redsquare.html wrote:

"A Symmetric Bipolar Nebula around MWC 922"
Peter Tuthill and James Lloyd, 13 April 2007, Science.

<<The startling degree of symmetry and level of intricate linear form make the Red Square nebula around MWC 922 the most symmetrical object of comparable complexity ever imaged. The overall architecture displays a twin opposed conical cavities (known as a bipolar nebula), along the axis of which can be seen a remarkable sequence of sharply defined linear rungs or bars. This series of rungs and conical surfaces lie nested, one within the next, down to the heart of the system, where the hyperbolic bicone surfaces are crossed by a dark lane running across the principle axis.

One particularly fascinating feature visibile in the images is a series of faint radial spokes, like teeth of a comb, pointing away from the center. Structures such as this are rarely seen in nebulae, and the high degree of regularity in this case may point to the intriguing possibility that these bands are shadows cast by periodic ripples or waves on the surface of an inner disk close to the star at the heart of the system.

Keeping in mind this geometry, it is interesting to take a second look at one of the most famous astronomical images of them all: the beautiful and unexpected ring system revealed around the only naked-eye supernova in the last few hundred years - SN1987A. Could the star MWC 922 at the heart of the Red Square one day explode as a supernova, kindling the outer reaches of its nebula into such an incandescent display? We don't know yet for sure, but one thing is certain. The remarkable series of bars seen in the Red Square may make it the best astrophysical laboratory yet discovered for studying the physics of generating the mysterious sharp polar ring systems like that around SN1987A.>>