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Meteor Streaking Beside Sun During Venus Transit

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 12:42 am
by scott42
In case anyone is interested, I caught a daytime terrestrial meteor streaking beside the view of the Sun with Venus transiting it. It can be viewed at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4TSqtEpYE0. The video has some extraneous light present because I was using low budget technology - video camera placed in front of the eyepiece lens. I was also using a small telescope with a solar filter. A serendipitous observation.

Re: Meteor Streaking Beside Sun During Venus Transit

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 3:52 am
by geckzilla
Why are you so convinced that it's a meteor? There are numerous videos of airplanes passing the sun and they look very similar to your video except that they intersect the disc of the sun so the contrail is obvious.

Re: Meteor Streaking Beside Sun During Venus Transit

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 4:42 am
by Chris Peterson
scott42 wrote:In case anyone is interested, I caught a daytime terrestrial meteor streaking beside the view of the Sun with Venus transiting it. It can be viewed at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4TSqtEpYE0. The video has some extraneous light present because I was using low budget technology - video camera placed in front of the eyepiece lens. I was also using a small telescope with a solar filter. A serendipitous observation.
I'm skeptical this is a meteor. It appears nearly as bright as the Sun. A -26 magnitude meteor occurs when a large body gets low in the atmosphere. It produces a long lasting smoke trail, sonics, and does not go unnoticed. It also has a long path- not something that is only a fraction of a degree, as seen in your video.

I'm not sure what's in the image, but a meteor seems very unlikely.

Re: Meteor Streaking Beside Sun During Venus Transit

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 5:46 am
by Beyond
With my screen magnification on 400%, that appears to be a very Big object. I sure wouldn't want it to hit earth!! If it's not the mother of all meteors, then it's gotta be the mother of all alien mother ships that some people talk about. I'll bet that it's already makeing the rounds of the U.F.O. circuit. :mrgreen:

Re: Meteor Streaking Beside Sun During Venus Transit

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 12:18 pm
by saturno2
This phenomenon is interesting and needs a scientific explanation,if not a speck on the lents
I saw something strange next day the Venus transit. At 6 am, the Sun shine extra light power, as when in a football stadium ( at night ) floodinghts light up neon. Just of these color. No idea what caused this :?

Re: Meteor Streaking Beside Sun During Venus Transit

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 4:14 pm
by scott42
I have considered the possibility of it being a contrail or something happening within the optics of the telescope. I don't think a contrail will appear beside the disk of the sun when viewed through a solar filter. A contrail would darken or distort the light, along an airplanes path, when in front of the solar disk.

If a spec of dust or insect happened to get into the optics of the telescope, it would simply serve to darken the intensity as opposed to show up as a concentrated source of light. Plus it moves quite uniformly.

The timing seems consistent with a meteor going through the atmosphere. There is a lot of atmospheric volume for the meteor to pass through since the video was taken near sunset. This, combined with it possibly being a perspective view of the meteor trajectory. It was viewable for about 2 to 3 seconds which may be possible. Its trajectory seems to be in the right direction. I would think it is much more likely to be going downward with respect to the horizon than upwards. Once you flip and reverse the image, the trajectory goes down and toward the left.

I also contacted an expert in solar viewing to make sure I wasn't too far off the mark in intepreting the phenomenon. Phil Goode, of the Big Bear Solar Observatory, indicates it looks like a terrestrial meteor. I would be surprised if this is the first daytime meteor streak recorded in video while viewing through a solar filter. But I haven't found any mention of such on the web. But it can probably make the claim of being the first daytime meteor streak viewed through a solar filter while Venus is transiting the Sun.

As for the UFO angle, it wouldn't surprise me if people start talking about it in this way. But this is sensationalizing the observation and its interpretation. One should rule out the much more likely interpretation, in my opinion, of it being a meteor before jumping to the UFO conclusion. As Richard Feynman once remarked when asked if UFOs exist, he stated that they are highly unlikely, but one cannot prove they don't exist. One can see his discussion on YouTube at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLaRXYai19A. And it may be difficult to distinguish this meteor from space junk or an artificial satellite re-entering the atmosphere.

It would be really interesting if someone else caught the meteor streak on video. Then one could compare the timing and trajectory in connection with the viewing location.

Re: Meteor Streaking Beside Sun During Venus Transit

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 4:50 pm
by bystander
scott42 wrote: As for the UFO angle, it wouldn't surprise me if people start talking about it in this way. But this is sensationalizing the observation and its interpretation. One should rule out the much more likely interpretation, in my opinion, of it being a meteor before jumping to the UFO conclusion.
Has it been identified? Was it "flying"? Was it an "object"? If the the answers are, No, Yes, Yes, then by definition it is a UFO. :mrgreen:

Re: Meteor Streaking Beside Sun During Venus Transit

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 1:24 am
by scott42
Nice comment and quote at the end. I would just add that the term "UFO" is more often interpreted in the common vernacular as compared to the literal description. Come to think of it, it is more apt an 'un-identified falling object' but still gets the same acrynom.