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“Venus has a Moon?”
Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 4:35 pm
by neufer
http://www.universetoday.com/81575/venus-has-a-moon/#more-81575 wrote:
<<Astronomers have been busy trying to determine the spin period and composition of Venus’ moon. December 8, 2010, results were announced by JPL/Caltech scientists, led by Michael Hicks.
“Wait a minute; back up”, I hear you ask. “Venus has a Moon?”
Of course it does. Well, kind of…
Let me explain.
It has the rather unfortunate name of 2002 VE68. That is because it was discovered on November 11, 2002 by LONEOS, the Lowell Observatory Near Earth Object Search. 2002 VE68 is an earth orbit-crossing asteroid that has been designated a Potential Hazardous Asteroid by the Minor Planet Center. For obvious reasons, this makes it a very interesting subject of study for JPL scientists.
2002 VE68 used to be a run of the mill, potential impact threat, Near Earth Object. But approximately 7000 years ago it had a close encounter with Earth that kicked it into a new orbit. It now occupies a place in orbit around the Sun where at its closest it wanders inside the orbit of Mercury and at its furthest it reaches just outside the orbit of the Earth. It is now in a 1:1 orbital resonance with Venus.
An orbital resonance is when two orbiting bodies exert a regular, periodic gravitational influence on each other due to their orbital periods being related by a ratio of two small numbers. For example, Pluto and Neptune are in an orbital resonance of 2:3, which simply means for every two times Pluto goes around the Sun, Neptune makes three trips around.
In the case of Venus and 2002 VE68, they both take the same time to orbit the Sun once. They are in a 1:1 orbital resonance. So by definition, 2002 VE68 is considered a quasi-satellite of Venus. If you watch the Orbital Viewer applet at the JPL small body page you can watch this celestial dance as the two bodies orbit the Sun and each other as 2002 VE68 dodges Earth and Mercury in the process.
Often these resonances result in an unstable interaction, in which the bodies exchange momentum and shift orbits until the resonance no longer exists. In this case, scientists believe 2002 VE68 will only remain a Venusian quasi-satellite for another 500 years or so.
So getting back to the story, Hicks and his team used the recent close apparition of 2002 VE68 to do photometric measurements over the course of three nights in November using the JPL Table Mountain 0.6m telescope near Wrightwood, California. From the color data they obtained they determined that 2002 VE68 is an X type asteroid. This is a group of asteroids with very similar spectra that could potentially have a variety of compositions. They are further broken down into Tholen classification types as either E, M or P types. Unfortunately Hicks’ team was not able to resolve the sub-classification with their equipment.
They were able to determine the approximate size of the asteroid to be 200 meters in diameter, based on its absolute magnitude, and they determined a spin rate of 13.5 hours. The amplitude of the fluctuation on the light curve of 2002 VE68 could imply hat it is actually a contact binary, two clumps of asteroidal material orbiting a center of mass in contact with each other.>>
Re: “Venus has a Moon?”
Posted: Wed May 18, 2011 11:39 pm
by billinger
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Re: “Venus has a Moon?”
Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 1:46 am
by Ann
Interesting. Thanks for explaining, neufer.
On a related note, I can't help wondering why it is a sensation that Venus has a moon at all. Mars has two moons, Jupiter and Saturn each have a plethora of moons, Uranus and Neptune both have many, and tiny Pluto has three moons. Even some asteroids have moons. Why are moons so rare in the inner solar system?
Clearly it has to do with the original formation of the solar system and how matter was pushed about both by the solar wind and by the migration of the gas giants. One important factor, no doubt, is that no icy moons could form in the inner solar system, because the temperature was simply too high.
Well, it's an interesting question, in any case.
Ann
Re: “Venus has a Moon?”
Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 6:50 pm
by Orca
Well, considering that our entire history as a sentient species is just a snapshot in time relative to the age of the solar system, I imagine it is entirely possible that Venus at one point or another has had a captured moon or two. The orbits of captured satellites are often tenuous.
Triton is an example; it's thought to be a Kuiper belt object captured by Neptune. It's orbit is degrading and it will eventually either collide with the planet - or perhaps be torn to shreds when it hits the Roche Limit. Had our civilization formed after that point we might have sent probes to find bold, beautiful rings around Neptune (as opposed to the tiny ringlets we see right now).
Re: “Venus has a Moon?”
Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 7:21 pm
by BMAONE23
Interestingly enough, If this were a true Venusian satellite, It would also orbit in retrograde motion (similar to the planet turning on its axis) and complete one orbit every Venusian year.
see
http://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/sbdb.cgi?sstr=2 ... ;cad=0#orb and hit the ">>" icon
Re: “Venus has a Moon?”
Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 12:26 am
by billinger
Right. JPL presents quite precise 1:1 orbital resonance. Equally interesting is seventh planet of Solar System; direction of motion and satellites. I have a chance to observe that one with "unarmed eye" on my latitude in September; a kind of magician experience.
Re: “Venus has a Moon?”
Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 3:03 am
by dougettinger
Ann wrote:Interesting. Thanks for explaining, neufer.
On a related note, I can't help wondering why it is a sensation that Venus has a moon at all. Mars has two moons, Jupiter and Saturn each have a plethora of moons, Uranus and Neptune both have many, and tiny Pluto has three moons. Even some asteroids have moons. Why are moons so rare in the inner solar system?
Clearly it has to do with the original formation of the solar system and how matter was pushed about both by the solar wind and by the migration of the gas giants. One important factor, no doubt, is that no icy moons could form in the inner solar system, because the temperature was simply too high.
Well, it's an interesting question, in any case.
Ann
One could consider comets as potential icy moons that could be captured by the inner planets. However, their volatile materials are evaporated by the Sun's heat and solar wind reducing them to smaller rocky asteroids. Also, their trajectories would in the majority of cases either cause them to collide with the Sun or be slung into large elongated elliptical orbits. This is further reason why neither icy moons nor any body with significant volatiles could form or be captured in the inner solar system.
Is there a certain heat transfer process or calculation that reveals the current temperature at varying orbital distances of planetary bodies due to solar radiation ? In other words, how is the water belt around the Sun determined assuming the appropriate atmospheric composition and the appropriate gravitational attraction for any given planet ?