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Yes, that was the point of the first post.Qev wrote:Was just a jet contrail anyway...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grauman%27s_Chinese_Theatre wrote:
<<Grauman's Chinese Theatre is a movie theater located at 6925 Hollywood Boulevard in Hollywood. It is located along the historic Hollywood Walk of Fame. There are nearly 200 Hollywood celebrity handprints, footprints, and autographs in the concrete of the theater's forecourt.
Variations of this honored tradition are imprints of the eye glasses of Harold Lloyd, the cigars of Groucho Marx and George Burns, the magic wands of Harry Potter stars Daniel Radcliffe, Emma Watson and Rupert Grint, the legs of Betty Grable, the fist of John Wayne, the knees of Al Jolson, the ice skating blades of Sonja Henie, and the noses of Jimmy Durante and Bob Hope. Western stars William S. Hart and Roy Rogers left imprints of their guns. The hoofprints of "Tony", the horse of Tom Mix, "Champion", the horse of Gene Autry, and "Trigger", the horse of Rogers, were left in the concrete beside the prints of the stars who rode them in the movies.
The only person not associated with the movie industry to have a signature and handprint in front of the theater is Grauman's mother.>>
It's just a hypothesis.bystander wrote:
So Grauman's mother triggered the LA missile launch from her cell phone in 1928?
Aren't we all?bystander wrote:
Where do you get your information? Your sources amaze me. Are you another time traveler?
When an impressive contrail was spotted off the California coast last week, it sparked widespread reports of a mystery missile launch in the area – a theory the Pentagon squashed after initial investigations. But, the odd contrail fooled more than the public and media, and was even seen from space.
After watching footage of the Nov. 8 contrail, Patrick Minnis, a contrail expert in the Science Directorate at NASA's Langley Research Center in Hampton, Va., assumed it came from a missile, as many others did.
He even said so in response to a phone call from a reporter.
"She responded with links to two different blogs that compared it to older aircraft contrail pictures, and indicated that the blog authors thought it was an aircraft contrail," Minnis said of the reporter. "I had not really thought about that aspect previously and, at first glance, the video showed what looked like a missile launch. Once the idea that it was an aircraft contrail entered my head, I had to pay closer attention, because aircraft contrails are part of my job description."
Later, he learned that fellow NASA scientist Doug Spangenberg had pieced together a photo of the mystery contrail from space after sifting through weather satellite images.
This looks very much like many contrails I've seen. They frequently are lit and shadowed in exactly this way (I can't tell you how many I've had reported as fireballs!) The rate of spread is also pretty commonly seen- that just depends on atmospheric conditions.BMAONE23 wrote:Messenger aside (George Noory), look at the footage utilized in the interview.
Aircraft contrails, and I've seen an uncountable number, generally start out as 2 separate trails that merge into one behind the rear of the aircraft. After a couple of minutes time they spread out slightly and sometimes still stay resolved as 2 separate trails. Generally, it takes more than an hour for the trail to expand to the point depicted in the news footage, though sometimes it could be about 15 minutes, point being, by the time the contrail has expanded to the size indicated in the news footage, the plane has passed overhead.
If this was the flight from Honolulu to Chicago, altitude would have been maintained and the contrail would have continued toward the east and above Los Angeles but there is no footage of the trail continuance.
Next, look at the Shadow cast by the contrail. The sun is definitely behind and below the level of the trail (after sundown) and is illuminating it. The shadow however, if it were being cast upon a trail from an aircraft traveling to the east, should be leading the trail but it isn't. Instead it is staying behind and below the end of the trail which would indicate that the source is traveling northwest not toward the east.
The trail in the video starts as a single entity and, in part of the footage, is sourced from an orange glow (possible missile engine exhaust fire) The trail also expands rapidly as if it contains much more material that the traditional aircraft exhaust.
