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Alternatives to vulgarisms?

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 7:34 am
by headscratcher
There are some vugarisms that are useful for conveying concepts/opinions. However some people desire to repress the expression of those concepts by repressing the use of the vulgarism.

One vulgarism conveying the concept that what someone is saying is untrue, unimportant, or irrelevant, both the sayer and the listener know is untrue, unimportant, or irrelevant, and/or is disrespectful and insulting to the listener's intelligence to say, known by a vulgarism referring to male bovine issue, is useful in expressing the concept.

Can anyone come up with an alternative word that conveys the concept in as short a form?

The thing is, some people don't like the concept being conveyed and disguise it with a false claim of offense to the vulgarism. By repressing the expression of the vulgarism they with glee (and relief) repress conveyance of the concept/opinion.

Can we come up with a list of alternatives to vulgarisms that can't be used to repress the concept intended by the vulgarism. This way we can prevent the avoidance of concepts by claims of offense to a vulgarism.

Re: Alternatives to vulgarisms?

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 12:41 pm
by rstevenson
This sounds like utter hogwash to me. :mrgreen:

Rob

Re: Alternatives to vulgarisms?

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 12:46 pm
by owlice
Kudos, Rob!

Re: Alternatives to vulgarisms?

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 1:55 pm
by Chris Peterson
rstevenson wrote:This sounds like utter hogwash to me. :mrgreen:
My choice of expression would have brought up the issue of recursion...

Re: Alternatives to vulgarisms?

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 2:22 pm
by neufer
Chris Peterson wrote:
My choice of expression would have brought up the issue of recursion...
Cursive, a. [LL. cursivus: cf. F. cursif] Running; flowing. Cursive hand,a running handwriting.

Curse, v. t. [AS. cursian, corsian; cf. Dan. korse to make the sign of the cross, Sw. korsa, fr. Dan. & Sw. kors cross.]

Re: Alternatives to vulgarisms?

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 3:10 pm
by Chris Peterson
neufer wrote:Cursive, a. [LL. cursivus: cf. F. cursif] Running; flowing. Cursive hand,a running handwriting.
Curse, v. t. [AS. cursian, corsian; cf. Dan. korse to make the sign of the cross, Sw. korsa, fr. Dan. & Sw. kors cross.]
I was wondering if you'd pick up on the subtle pun hidden in my response...

Re: Alternatives to vulgarisms?

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 4:34 pm
by headscratcher
rstevenson wrote:This sounds like utter hogwash to me. :mrgreen:

Rob
Good one! I think I'll start using that one. Poppycock too maybe. My great grandma used to say "fiddlesticks".

Any other old fashioned words or phrases? Not overtly vulgar though. Poppycock might be trouble.

Re: Alternatives to vulgarisms?

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 4:37 pm
by Chris Peterson
Guest wrote:Any other old fashioned words or phrases? Not overtly vulgar though. Poppycock might be trouble.
Considering that the nanny filters at a nearby school were blocking astronomical sites that used the term "naked eye", you might be right about that.

Re: Alternatives to vulgarisms?

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 2:05 am
by makc
ah, here they go again with good old hypocricy, tehre's no real difference in useing word A in place of word B to convey the same idea. words are just a set of letters arranged in some order, they are labels for things that you (with ya school "nanny filters") actually should aim to censor. but you're after words. this is both ridiculous and pathetic.

p.s. you know who I mean when I say you. if you don't, just ignore this.

Re: Alternatives to vulgarisms?

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 2:09 am
by Chris Peterson
makc wrote:ah, here they go again with good old hypocricy, tehre's no real difference in useing word A in place of word B to convey the same idea.
Logically, that makes perfect sense. But it obviously isn't true in actual practice.

Re: Alternatives to vulgarisms?

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 2:20 am
by bystander
makc wrote:ah, here they go again with good old hypocricy, tehre's no real difference in useing word A in place of word B to convey the same idea.
Do you curse your superiors to their face at your job? If not, then obviously you do recognize the difference. If you do, then I'm pretty sure I wouldn't want to work where you do.

Re: Alternatives to vulgarisms?

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 4:09 am
by neufer
Chris Peterson wrote:
makc wrote:ah, here they go again with good old hypocricy, tehre's no real difference in useing word A in place of word B to convey the same idea.
Logically, that makes perfect sense. But it obviously isn't true in actual practice.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2385563/posts

Re: Alternatives to vulgarisms?

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 12:56 pm
by orin stepanek
here's an alternative! I hope it's not offensive! :lol:
Click to play embedded YouTube video.

Re: Alternatives to vulgarisms?

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 1:03 pm
by owlice
There's a time and place for everything, and it's not for nothing that several families I know who live in my area, where traffic is generally terrible, refer to vulgarisms as "car words." :D

Re: Alternatives to vulgarisms?

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 1:15 pm
by neufer
owlice wrote:There's a time and place for everything, and it's not for nothing that several families
I know who live in my area, where traffic is generally terrible, refer to vulgarisms as "car words." :D
Click to play embedded YouTube video.

Re: Alternatives to vulgarisms?

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 1:24 pm
by owlice
http://acappella.colormaria.com/2121C/2 ... d_Rage.mp3 <-- just a snippet. Couldn't find the whole song quickly. Lyrics are at link below.

http://www.lipwalklyrics.com/lyrics/539 ... drage.html

Re: Alternatives to vulgarisms?

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 6:27 pm
by makc
bystander wrote:I'm pretty sure I wouldn't want to work where you do.
same here, same here.

orin, great song :)

Re: Alternatives to vulgarisms?

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 2:23 pm
by orin stepanek
Thanks Makc! 8-)
owlice wrote:There's a time and place for everything, and it's not for nothing that several families I know who live in my area, where traffic is generally terrible, refer to vulgarisms as "car words." :D
Car words! Is that what they're called? : :lol: I've used those a few times. We have a 3 mile stretch to get to Walmart from here; and the speed limit goes from 35 to 45 about half way there. Seems as though people go 40 in the 35 zone; and 40 in the 45 zone. I guess that balances out 'cept I like to go the speed limit. Trouble is that you can't get around them because they drive side by side in both lanes. And so; the car words come out. :? $#&*%@ :mrgreen: I'm glad I don't live in a bigger city :)

Re: Alternatives to vulgarisms?

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 2:52 pm
by bystander
Other than Omaha, do they even have cities in Nebraska? :lol:

It is said the population of Lincoln doubles on game day.

Re: Alternatives to vulgarisms?

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 4:15 pm
by orin stepanek
bystander wrote:Other than Omaha, do they even have cities in Nebraska? :lol:

It is said the population of Lincoln doubles on game day.
Is this a put down? :? I guess I'm a little sensitive at times.
Lincoln has 239,000. NU stadium holds a little over 80,000. BTW They plan on expanding it. I think the 3rd largest city has about 47,000. My city has 20,000. Big enough for me. 8-)

Re: Alternatives to vulgarisms?

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 4:25 pm
by owlice
Hey, Orin, bystander lives in Oklahoma; he's just jealous that Nebraska has cities that other people have heard of! :-D

Re: Alternatives to vulgarisms?

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 4:33 pm
by bystander
orin stepanek wrote:Is this a put down? :? I guess I'm a little sensitive at times.
Sorry, no put down, just a joke. I don't like big cities, either. Even OKC is getting too big for me.
owlice wrote:Hey, Orin, bystander lives in Oklahoma; he's just jealous that Nebraska has cities that other people have heard of! :-D
Hey!!! I'll bet geckzilla knows some cities in Oklahoma.
Some people have heard of Oklahoma City and Tulsa.
Even Norman and Stillwater get some exposure on ESPN.

Re: Alternatives to vulgarisms?

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 4:40 pm
by owlice
Well, I'm just joshin' you, you know, but even so, I'll point out that Oklahoma had to name its capital city as it did so people would remember it! :-D

I've even been to Oklahoma. I haven't been to Nebraska, though I have a friend who plays in the symphony and my son's great-aunt lives there.

Hmmm. Now I want to count how many states I've never been to....

Re: Alternatives to vulgarisms?

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 4:57 pm
by bystander
Actually, Guthrie was the original capitol, until the state seal was stolen and moved to OKC.

Re: Alternatives to vulgarisms?

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 5:06 pm
by neufer
bystander wrote:Actually, Guthrie was the original capitol, until the state seal was stolen and moved to OKC.
[size=150][color=#FF0000]First Cell Phone Tower, Guthrie, OK (1893)[/color][/size]