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Hickson Compact Group 87
http://www.robgendlerastropics.com/Hickson-87-HST.html
Copyright and processing: Robert Gendler; data from the HLA The ISS with a Modest Telescope
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Copyright: Paco Bellido ISS Flyby
Copyright: Jay Ouellet The ISS flyby passed between Saturn and Mars on June 26th, 2010. Regulus and Denebola of the constellation Leo were nearby. In the foreground is the Quebec Bridge, the longest cantilever bridge in the world. On the bottom right, friends witnessed the ISS for the first time, thrilled by its bright -3.5 magnitude and awed in learning the ISS was 300 miles high and traveling at 17,000 MPH. M61: Spiral Galaxy in Virgo
http://www.robgendlerastropics.com/M61-AU.html
Copyright and processing: Robert Gendler; data from the HLA Halo
Copyright: Rik Thompson

When i saw group 87 my first thought was - Galaxies--Galaxies everywhere and not an alien in sight. You'd think that with all the space pictures that have been taken by all the Telescopes for all this time, a flying saucer would have turned up somewhere. Maybe we just don't get to see the "good" stuff? Or maybe they are always just too close and don't show up??

beyond wrote:Maybe we just don't get to see the "good" stuff? Or maybe they are always just too close and don't show up??

I'd go with "maybe they don't exist," but I'd remove the "maybe."

beyond wrote:You'd think that with all the space pictures that have been taken by all the Telescopes for all this time, a flying saucer would have turned up somewhere. Maybe we just don't get to see the "good" stuff? Or maybe they are always just too close and don't show up??

And I've had half of Colorado covered with allsky cameras running all night for the last ten years. And not a flying saucer to be found. We look deep, we look close, we see nothing. The rational position is that there's nothing to see.

Perhaps you should go where crop circles are. There are places where UFO's show up a lot and people take pictures of them, usually when they are not moving. As far as Telescopes go, perhaps the field of view is too narrow and the focal point is too far out(if there is a focal point)to see them anyway.
I have no problem with their existence, I've seen two different kinds since I've been on this planet, well one and a half. The latest one about 25 years occured about sunset with clouds just above tree top level. Two dull pulseing lights about 5 feet in diameter and a few feet apart went over my house while going in and out of the low clouds and then disappearing about 10 seconds later. It appeared to be going just a little faster than a jogger and was absolutely QUIET!! Next to one of the lights were about a half dozen symbols that looked like the nasa symbols that almost don't look like letters.

beyond wrote:Perhaps you should go where crop circles are. There are places where UFO's show up a lot and people take pictures of them, usually when they are not moving.

I would assume it's the same people taking the pictures as make the crop circles, so it's hard to have much confidence. If you'll attempt one kind of hoax, you'll probably attempt others. And even so, I've never seen a picture that showed anything very hard to explain.

Lots of things can make odd lights in the sky- things that are pretty prosaic once you consider the possibilities.

Why are people so convinced that flying saucers exist?

My answer is that people believe that flying saucers exist for the same reason that they believe that the Sun is yellow - because they are told so all the time. I googled "flying saucer" and got 2,110,000 hits. That's a lot of hits for something that has never been seen for real. I also googled "space alien" and got 7,670,000 hits. "UFO" got 38,200,000 hits.

Consider what movies and TV shows teach us! There is no shortage of aliens or spaceships there, is there?

I guess I'll stop now, because you get my point, don't you?

Ann

Part, if not most of the problem is that Hollywood has proven that these things can be highly convincingly created in both still and moving images through digital technology. Therefore ANY Still or Moving images could be digitally created and are thereby rendered unbelieveable and faked. There might be an actual still or moving image out there, but no one would ever believe it wasn't created.

Yes, when they see a really good astro photo that they couldn't produce themselves, they immediately start yelling, Fake.

Looks as though many here thinks they exist, hmmm?

Sure, I saw it on the internet.

bystander wrote:Sure, I saw it on the internet.

I did, too:

Ann wrote:they believe

bystander wrote:they see

Owlice, look at your picture titled "Halo". It looks like an outer worldly craft of some kind hovering over a building. I was going to mention that BEFORE you guys got off onto UFO's, but got off into other things.
As for crop circles, they have been studied by scientists and it is very easy to tell Human made ones from the neat sharp looking ones. Humans, as far as i know, do not yet know how to radiate plant stems so they will bend in spiral patterns without breaking. The last time i looked into crop circles they were getting very elaborate and some of them seemed to be telling a story that scientists were interpreting. Its been a while, i don't remember if it was some articles or i just put crop circles into my Yahoo browser, but i think I'll try to find out what the crop circles have been upto lately.

Crop Circles Hold Key to Crazy Scientist’s Disappearance

Rob (or so I've led you to believe. Actually, I came to this planet to steal all your donuts.)

Don't forget about these

beyond wrote:As for crop circles, they have been studied by scientists

Mainly by "scientists". Probably the same sort of "scientists" who are "studying" UFOs.

and it is very easy to tell Human made ones from the neat sharp looking ones.

They're all made by humans. There's no doubt about this. No crop circle has ever been seen that hasn't been duplicated by people. And a good many of the most unusual crop circles (the ones that "scientists" were sure couldn't be made by humans) have later been confessed to by rather ordinary local people- who demonstrated their techniques.

Here's one for owlice


Hedwig crop circle: The giant 400ft pattern, the latest in a string of bird-themed designs
seen this summer, appeared overnight in a field in Woodborough Hill, Wilts. Photo: M AND Y
Owl crop-circle appears in Wiltshire field | telegraph.co.uk | 17 Aug 2009

Wow; I want one of those in my backyard!!

Starry Night in South Bavaria
Copyright: Dr. Michael M. Schmid
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Bear's Claw, Cat's Paw
http://downthewormhole.blogspot.com/
Copyright: John A. Davis

Wow, that is a pretty crop circle!!!

I don't know about you, but personally I'm amazed at what humans beings have been able to achieve:
And if you ask me, I'd say chances are that humans are the best constructors of crop circles in the universe, too...

Ann

Suspended Moon 1
Credit and copyright: Timm Kasper and Robert Blasius
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Suspended Moon 2
http://www.perseus.gr/Astro-Lunar-Scenes-Sounion-07.htm
Copyright: Anthony Ayiomamitis

There's The Olive Tree, again.

I love that picture of the church towers getting a good grip on the Moon, like a pair of tweezers! And the Lady in the Moon blushes all orange and smiles, too: she likes being squeezed!

Ann