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Castle and Full Moon (2009 April 16)
Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 4:18 am
by apodman
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap090416.html
Now that's what I call photographic composition.
A strange statement coming from me, perhaps, about a picture that is mostly plain black with no detail.
But it's great that the castle and the moon are about the same apparent size, and that they shine with about the same amount of light.
I guess it's all in finding the right spot at the right distance from the subject to put the camera, though the wispy clouds might have been lucky.
Re: Castle and Full Moon (2009 April 16)
Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 11:11 am
by Indigo_Sunrise
I agree - very well done!
I went to the web page for the individual that's credited with the image, but couldn't find anything about this particular image. I was hoping to find out some of the specifics for how it was done. Plus the l’Observatoire de la Côte d’Azur's web page looks like it's all in French....
Very nice image, though!
Re: Castle and Full Moon (2009 April 16)
Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 12:45 pm
by orin stepanek
It's a keeper; that's for sure. I put it in my file of backgrounds,
Orin
Re: Castle and Full Moon (2009 April 16)
Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 1:52 pm
by neufer
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. A Midsummer Night's Dream > Act V, scene I
Moonshine: This lanthorn doth the horned moon present;--
DEMETRIUS: He should have worn the horns on his head.
THESEUS: He is no crescent, and his horns are
. invisible within the circumference.
Moonshine: This lanthorn doth the horned moon present;
. Myself the man i' the moon do seem to be.
THESEUS: This is the greatest error of all the rest: the man
. should be put into the lanthorn. How is it else the
. man i' the moon?
DEMETRIUS: He dares not come there for the candle; for, you
. see, it is already in snuff.
HIPPOLYTA: I am aweary of this moon: would he would change!
THESEUS: It appears, by his small light of discretion, that
. he is in the wane; but yet, in courtesy, in all
. reason, we must stay the time.
LYSANDER: Proceed, Moon.
Moonshine: All that I have to say, is, to tell you that the
. lanthorn is the moon; I, the man in the moon; this
. thorn-bush, my thorn-bush; and this dog, my dog.
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<<
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Mr. Boh, has been a recognizable icon since the 1950s. Although the mascot itself was retired in the early sixties, it is still a highly popular image, especially in Baltimore, where it is considered an unofficial city mascot. A
Mr. Boh neon sign currently sits atop the former site of the National Brewery building in the Brewer's Hill neighborhood of Baltimore.>>
Re: Castle and Full Moon (2009 April 16)
Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 2:24 pm
by XLIV
Actually, Easter falls on the first Sunday after the Paschal full moon. Nice picture though.
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Re: Castle and Full Moon (2009 April 16)
Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 4:02 pm
by neufer
XLIV wrote:Actually, Easter falls on the first Sunday after the Paschal full moon. Nice picture though.
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Near Nice picture, actually.
Gregorian Paschal full moon: 2009 April 10
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecclesiastical_new_moon wrote:
<<An ecclesiastical new moon is the first day of a lunar month (an ecclesiastical moon) in an ecclesiastical lunar calendar. Such months have a whole number of days, 29 or 30, whereas true synodic months can vary from about 29.27 to 29.83 days in length.
Medieval authors equated the ecclesiastical new moon with a new crescent moon, but it is not a phase of the true moon. If the ecclesiastical lunar calendar is accurate, the ecclesiastical new moon can be any day from the day of the astronomical new moon or dark moon to two days later.
The fourteenth day of an ecclesiastical lunar month is the ecclesiastical full moon. The date of the ecclesiastical full moon is obtained by adding 13 days to the date of the preceding ecclesiastical new moon.
The first ecclesiastical new moon of the year to begin on or after March 8 is of special importance, since it is the Paschal new moon that begins the Paschal lunar month. The fourteenth day of the same lunar month is the first of the calendar year to occur on or next after March 21.
This fourteenth day was loosely called the Paschal full moon by medieval computists. Easter is the following Sunday.
Calendar pages in medieval liturgical books indicated the ecclesiastical new moons by writing the Golden number to the left of the day of the month on which the ecclesiastical new moon would occur in the year of that Golden number. In some places the age of the moon was announced daily in the office of Prime at the reading of the martyrology.
When in the 13th century Roger Bacon complained about the discrepancy between the ecclesiastical moon and the observed lunar phases, he specifically mentioned the discrepancy involving the ecclesiastical new moon
Quilibet computista novit quod fallit primatio per tres dies vel quatuor his temporibus; et quilibet rusticus potest in coelo hunc errorem contemplari. (Any computist knows that the prime [of the moon] is off by three or four days in our time; and any rustic can see this error in the sky.)
These complaints were finally addressed by the construction of the Gregorian calendar...>>
Re: Castle and Full Moon (2009 April 16)
Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 4:03 pm
by Indigo_Sunrise
neufer wrote:- ---------------------------------------------------------------------
. A Midsummer Night's Dream > Act V, scene I
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More nonsense.....
Connections stretched transparently thin using a link to wikipedia.....
Good lord!!! What does
any of that have to do with the original topic?!?!?!?!?
Way to clutter up the boards yet again......
Re: Castle and Full Moon (2009 April 16)
Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 5:27 pm
by aristarchusinexile
Where do I get some of that Beer!
Re: Castle and Full Moon (2009 April 16)
Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 8:35 pm
by neufer
Indigo_Sunrise wrote:Good lord!!! What does
any of that have to do with the original topic?!?!?!?!?
Way to clutter up the boards yet again......
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Asimov's Guide to Shakespeare, Vol. 1, p. 36 wrote:
- <<A Midsummer Night's Dream > Act V, scene I
Moonshine: All that I have to say, is, to tell you that the
. lanthorn is the moon; I, the man in the moon; this
. thorn-bush, my thorn-bush; and this dog, my dog.
A man holding a lantern on high is an obvious representation of the moon. But why the bush of thorns?
The vague shadows on the moon's face, visible to the naked eye, are the marks of the "seas," In the days before telescopes the nature of the markings could not be known and an imaginative peasantry concerted the shadows into figures; most commonly the figure of a "man in the moon." Somehow the feeling arose that the man in the moon had been hurled there as a punishment and the particular crime was thought to have been described in the Bible. The crime took place when the Israelites were wandering in the wilderness on their way to the Promised Land.
- Numbers 15: 32-4: And while the children of Israel were in the wilderness, they found a man that gathered sticks upon the sabbath day.And they that found him gathering sticks brought him unto Moses and Aaron, and unto all the congregation. And they put him in ward, because it was not declared what should be done to him.
It is clearly stated that he should be stoned to death. Nevertheless, an alternate non-biblical version of his punishment arose and grew popular. This was that for breaking the sabbath he was exiled to the moon with the sticks he had gathered. The sticks gradually elaborated into a thornbush and a dog was often added too.>>
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Also:
Roger
Bacon complained about the discrepancy between the ecclesiastical new moon and the observed lunar phases in the 13th century.
While Francis
Bacon is thought
by some to have written _A Midsummer Night's Dream_ in the 16th century.
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Asimov's Guide to Shakespeare, Vol. 1, p. 21 wrote:
- <<A Midsummer Night's Dream > Act I, scene I
To-morrow night, when Phoebe doth behold
Her silver visage in the watery glass,
It is odd that Lysander should refer to the moon as lighting up the night, for at the very beginning of the play, Theseus has specifically stated that it is only four nights to the next new moon This means that the old moon is now a crescent which appears only in the hours immediately preceding the dawn. Yet it is to be understood that the entire magic night that is soon to follow is moonlit. Who would argue with it? Let there be a full moon throughout the night even if astronomy says it is impossible.>>
Re: Castle and Full Moon (2009 April 16)
Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 8:53 pm
by bystander
Indigo_Sunrise wrote:Good lord!!! What does
any of that have to do with the original topic?!?!?!?!?
Way to clutter up the boards yet again......
neufer wrote: Asimov's Guide to Shakespeare, Vol. 1, p. 36 wrote: ...
Also: Roger Bacon ... Francis Bacon ...
Asimov's Guide to Shakespeare, Vol. 1, p. 21 wrote: ...
Ah! See, there is a point. There always is. The point is .... er, ah, what was the point ???
And what does it have to do with Natty Boh? What was the topic again?
Re: Castle and Full Moon (2009 April 16)
Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 10:00 pm
by neufer
bystander wrote:Ah! See, there is a point. There always is. The point is .... er, ah, what was the point ???
And what does it have to do with Natty Boh? What was the topic again?
Refer again to:
http://hlas.jottit.com/art_neuendorffer
Re: Castle and Full Moon (2009 April 16)
Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 11:27 pm
by apodman
Anyone can see that the old brewery building is the castle and Mr. Boh is the moon.
Try it without eyeglasses - it works better that way.
As any consumer of steamed crabs can tell you, National Bohemian beer is the only known antidote for Old Bay seasoning, and vice versa.
Re: Castle and Full Moon (2009 April 16)
Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 2:17 pm
by crosscountry
XLIV wrote:Actually, Easter falls on the first Sunday after the Paschal full moon. Nice picture though.
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sometimes. in 2008 The full moon was on the equinox. Pesach waited a month but Easter was the next Sunday. It was the first time in my life that Jesus rose before the last supper
Re: Castle and Full Moon (2009 April 16)
Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 2:33 pm
by bystander
apodman wrote:Try it without eyeglasses - it works better that way.
Or for those of you who don't wear glasses - try it with glasses, especially mine (severe astigmatism).
Re: Castle and Full Moon (2009 April 16)
Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 3:13 pm
by neufer
crosscountry wrote:XLIV wrote:Actually, Easter falls on the first Sunday after the Paschal full moon. Nice picture though.
44
sometimes. in 2008 The full moon was on the equinox. Pesach waited a month but Easter was the next Sunday. It was the first time in my life that Jesus rose before the last supper
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Ecclesiastical new moon: March 9, 2008
Spring equinox : March 20, 2008
Full (Egg) moon: March 21, 2008
Paschal new moon: March 22, 2008 = 13 + March 9
Easter Sunday: March 23, 2008
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Early Easters (Gregorian):
22 March: 1598, 1693, 1761, 1818, 2285, 2353, 2437, 2505, 2972
23 March: 1636, 1704, 1788, 1845, 1856, 1913, 2008, 2160, 2228, 2380, 2532, 2600, 2752
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecclesiastical_new_moon
http://www.phys.uu.nl/~vgent/easter/easter_text2b.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vernal_equinox