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HOLE IN MARS REVISITED
Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 9:42 pm
by BMAONE23
http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/pdf/PSP_004847_1745.pdf
Seen the latest image of the caves (holes) in Mars? It is sure a good thing that this wasn't Opportunities "Hole in One" location!
Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 11:06 pm
by Doum
Wow.
![Shocked :shock:](./images/smilies/icon_eek.gif)
What a big base it can make if we enclose it
![Smile :)](./images/smilies/icon_smile.gif)
. Assuming it is strong enough to not collaps elsewhere. Reinforcement of it might be needed.
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 10:05 am
by craterchains
Yes, this image is a good one I think too.
But I think there are much better places to build a base "in" Mars.
![Wink :wink:](./images/smilies/icon_wink.gif)
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 5:42 pm
by BMAONE23
Looking at the image, It appears like the hole goes down in steps. Almost like a passage for giants, or great Dune Worms.
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 7:39 pm
by orin stepanek
The almost smooth inside rim gives it an almost man-made appearance.
![Rolling Eyes :roll:](./images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif)
Probably a vent hole; but I would like to see the hole underneath.
Orin
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 6:30 am
by Superdoc
it dosen't seem like any meteorite or asteroid has dug this hole that is if the ground was not thick enough to tolerate the impact.
Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 2:51 pm
by FieryIce
Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 4:38 pm
by BMAONE23
Souds to me like the next probe should include a lighter than air craft to float down into these caves and investigate.
Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 6:59 pm
by makc
I think it will be pretty hard to make one lighter than martian air.
Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 9:42 am
by THX1138
Kind of ironic no?
We “supposedly” evolve from cave dwellers and here we are searching for caves again, only on another rock. Moreover, to possibly use as a living space at some time in the future and on top of that, because they might harbor some type of life already.
Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 1:38 am
by geckzilla
I don't know about living in those... they seem like scary vertical shafts! I think I'd rather live in a place where wheels aren't useless. Still, I really wonder how deep they are and what lies at the bottom. Rocks? Lava? Some kind of liquid? Sarlacc?
Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 11:44 am
by makc
was trying to "stare in the darkness" for a while, and found that inverting colors actually help a bit:
![Image](http://xs119.xs.to/xs119/07391/untitled_2347623.jpg.xs.jpg)
Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 1:34 pm
by geckzilla
Hah, I tried that too. Unfortunately very, very little is revealed from toying with the shadow.
Maybe if a photo were taken JUST of the inside without the surrounding, relatively bright land. Otherwise it's just like trying to take a photo of the inside of a house from the outside on a sunny day.
Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 4:56 pm
by BMAONE23
I see 4 or 5 shelves going down before it gets too dark
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 10:44 am
by THX1138
Indeed, I believe that is exactly the case BMAONE23.…………
Such as the type left behind when a water table is receding, hope there is some liquid H2O left down there.
This leads to the question. Name for a bottle of Martian water?
Arrow head…..Mountain spring water.
Perrier….. French imported water is it?
Martian water……Hmmmm,
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 11:44 am
by makc
very, very little is revealed from toying with the shadow
you can reveal anything from noise, for example martian city:
![Image](http://xs119.xs.to/xs119/07392/HoleMars1_city.jpg.xs.jpg)
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 1:39 pm
by harry
Hello All
Mars Meadow water.
Deep spring
===================
Its funny that we are discussing water.
What else is there to discuss?
Every time we open our mouths, we get a bag over it.
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 1:46 pm
by geckzilla
That's not the whole martian city, that's just the airport.
![Laughing :lol:](./images/smilies/icon_lol.gif)
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 8:21 pm
by THX1138
Couldn’t agree with you more Harry, none the less it would seem that city’s and airports “ On Mars “ Is quite open for discussion. That’s way out.
Red rock - water
War water “ Mars god of war per-se “
Deep crater - water
Water hole - water
Hole in one - water
Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 11:31 am
by harry
Hello THX1138
Water, water everywhere and not a drop to drink.
Keep smiling.
I took Nerieds advice and went to other forums to discuss alternative cosmology if there is a word like that.
Amazing discussions, I'm learning things that I had closed mind over.
Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 11:43 am
by makc
harry wrote:Every time we open our mouths, we get a bag over it.
Take a look at
this place (and
some background) to see what happens when you don't.
Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 5:00 am
by craterchains
I think commas should be used for any kind of help in convayance of thought that one wants to, , hmmmmm?
Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 11:25 am
by makc
CC, absolutely,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, btw, did you noticed how coma chains look just like crater chains? And since coma chains are clearly artificial, it actually proves your theory,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,NOT
Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 9:09 am
by craterchains
Actually CS crater chains are a "natural" occurrence in all places on earth. They have been naturally created since explosives were invented. To "blow" ditches into the terrain for irrigation as an example. Then
for use in war as the result of automatic firing weapons. (The machine gun.) And, finally today, as a multiple warhead delivery vehicle for modern high yield atomic weapons that can create concise systematic lines of craters, or to different cities in a region. These are "natural" where intelligent life has been.
Norval
![Shocked :shock:](./images/smilies/icon_eek.gif)
Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 1:35 pm
by geckzilla
Norval, right or wrong, you are an old codger.