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Southern Moonscape, lunar craters (APOD 23 Aug 2007)
Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 4:10 am
by craterchains
Am I seeing things, or are there some very square looking craters here?
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap070823.html
BTW, and FYI to all, here is another great site for looking at moon images.
The Lunar Picture Of the Day LPOD
http://www.lpod.org/
They recently had a great mention of Moretus also.
http://www.lpod.org/?m=20070819
Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 5:44 am
by BMAONE23
they sure look square to me too
crater upon crater
Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 6:05 am
by grayness
Why are there so many craters on the moon and how often do they hit?
We don't see as many on other planets do we?
Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 8:32 am
by craterchains
Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 8:34 am
by craterchains
Yes, we do, and more on many bodies in our solar system, and then some bodies have very few , , hmmmm I wonder why?!?!?!
Norval
APOD 23/8/07
Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 8:35 am
by Nick
You forget the effects of atmosphere and weathering which removes the majority of all but the biggest impact events.
For me, I can't see any craters, only cones with their tops neatly sliced off.
APOD 2007 August 23 Southern Moonscape Shadows
Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 10:04 am
by 13 Rabbit
I sucked the image into Photo-Editor and rotated it 180 degrees.
This puts the shadows where my eye can see the depth of the craters.
I see one of my favorite six sided craters.
Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 10:25 am
by Nick
I can't see craters, only cones with their tops neatly sliced off
Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 2:05 pm
by BMAONE23
Nick wrote:I can't see craters, only cones with their tops neatly sliced off
See if rotating the image helps. Sometimes shadowing from the opposite direction helps this effect.
Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 2:09 pm
by zeilouz
I do see some square craters myself.. 8)
Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 5:28 pm
by GGaskill
In a dense crater field such as that, the walls of newer craters distort the geometry of the older ones.
Re: crater upon crater
Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 8:30 pm
by JohnD
grayness wrote:Why are there so many craters on the moon and how often do they hit?
We don't see as many on other planets do we?
Oh, yes we do!
Even on Earth.
See this map, of just North America, and just the BIG craters that are still observable after weathering and geology:
http://www.unb.ca/passc/ImpactDatabase/ ... erica.html
John
Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 8:57 pm
by FieryIce
GGaskill wrote:In a dense crater field such as that, the walls of newer craters distort the geometry of the older ones.
Where is the dense field of craters with the "Barringer Crater"?
Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 9:18 pm
by BMAONE23
Interesting that the gas fields lie along the circular rim of this impact
http://www.unb.ca/passc/ImpactDatabase/images/avak.htm
August 23 APOD
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 5:32 am
by gcsievers
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap070823.html
This picture shows lines in a NNE direction (if N was up) that almost look like dust blown by a wind. We all know that is unlikely if not impossible but then, what is the cause of the lines? Are they an artifact of the foreshortened perspective?
Look especially at the left middle area just left of the crater mentioned in the text. It is one of the brighter areas in the picture.
APOD 23rd August 2007 - Lunar Craters
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 10:38 am
by Lucretia
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap070823.html
Is it just me, or does anyone else have real problems resolving these kind of images as craters and not bumps?
It takes me a good few minutes of squinting and staring and looking at other details before I can perceive the craters as concave.
Does anyone else get this problem
Re: APOD 23rd August 2007 - Lunar Craters
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 1:54 pm
by William Roeder
Lucretia wrote:http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap070823.html
Is it just me, or does anyone else have real problems resolving these kind of images as craters and not bumps?
It takes me a good few minutes of squinting and staring and looking at other details before I can perceive the craters as concave.
Does anyone else get this problem
Very common
http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/misc/ho ... m.html#con
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 1:56 pm
by FieryIce
After personally scrutinizing thousands or what might even be thousands upon thousands of images of planetary bodies in our solar system with similar markings, the goddess Nereid’s “modern concordance cosmological models” or the only “scientific game in town” would have you believe these strafe like marks (scarring) to be just a figment of your imagination.
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 2:10 pm
by FieryIce
William Roeder, you are directing Lucretia to Dr. Phil’s forum of deceit and lies.
This does illustrate the concave vs convex perception.
Example from that link:
But this does not, just more BA bull.
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 2:29 pm
by DonB312
For reference here is the image from the APOD rotated 90 degrees clockwise:
Don Bush
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 2:35 pm
by craterchains
Lets not forget the Lunar Eclipse for parts of the world on the 28th this month.
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 3:06 pm
by gcsievers
A figment of my imagination? That is possible. At my age there are several figments of my imagination lying around. However, you mentioned scarring. I don't know about scarring but a series of small meteorite strikes all coming from the same general direction might make sense.
Like the "face" on Mars, I need to see this same spot from a different angle. Any links to other pictures of the same area?
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 3:15 pm
by FieryIce
Re: crater upon crater
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 4:17 pm
by Chris Peterson
grayness wrote:Why are there so many craters on the moon and how often do they hit?
We don't see as many on other planets do we?
About 4 billion years ago, something happened that flung a lot of material into the inner Solar System. This was the Late Heavy Bombardment, which isn't well understood, but may be related to an orbital resonance between Jupiter and Saturn. In any case, most of the cratering in the Solar System, including that on the Moon, happened back then. It is preserved on the Moon, on Mercury, and maybe on some of Jupiter's and Saturn's large moons because they are airless and geologically stable. We don't see much on Venus, Earth, Mars, and many moons because they have active processes, either tectonic or atmospheric, that reshape the surface over millions or hundreds of millions of years (the process is slower on Mars, so we do see significant cratering, although much less than on the Moon).
Cratering since then has been much more sporadic and rare. Gravitational effects of the planets, especially Jupiter, serve to keep the inner Solar System relatively clear of debris. Small meteoroids hit the Moon regularly, but these are not large enough to make craters visible from Earth. Events large enough to produce craters ~1km across probably happen every few tens of thousands of years. Amateurs and professionals armed with video cameras and small telescopes record multiple impacts on the Moon during many meteor showers.
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 5:22 pm
by BMAONE23
I just noticed that the crater at the bottom of the rotated image is hexagonal