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Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2005 1:54 pm
by Empeda2
Not at all Helena - I'd lust like to point out though that what I'm saying is currently theory - whether or not it's right is another thing!
The point of it all is that the CMB is everywhere, and is the same (minor fluctuations aside) whichever way you view.
It's know as the 'horizon problem'. Type that into google and you should get some more info - I'm recalling alot of this from memory so I don't feel I know enough to answer your questions in depth.
Here's a quick overview - not very indepth but they might explain it better than me!
http://archive.ncsa.uiuc.edu/Cyberia/Co ... oblem.html[/url]
Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 6:51 am
by harry
Hello Empeda2
The so called Horizon problem was discussed by me some 20 years ago or more and I was told that I was on the wrong track.
The Big Bang scientists were locked in an idea that had no future.
Today my friend was worried that I did not believe in God and that my ideas of the universe were strange.
Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 11:39 pm
by ATraylor
One hears about how massively large the universe is, but until you see a map like this, it's hard to imagine. It's mind-boggling to imagine even when staring at the map!
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 5:35 am
by harry
Nice map, but its only what we see.
The universe has units. such as solar system, galaxy, cluster of galaxies, cluster of cluster of galaxies, super clusters, super doper clusters and so forth.
The golden rule starts from the seed. The atom structure.
As for the age of the universe, its timeless and never ending.
Man in the past have put limits to its size and brought in models such as the Big Bang and the expansion of the universe. Some prefer to live in the stone age.
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 3:50 pm
by Orca
harry wrote:
As for the age of the universe, its timeless and never ending.
Man in the past have put limits to its size and brought in models such as the Big Bang and the expansion of the universe. Some prefer to live in the stone age.
That is an interesting statement; considering that from the stone age until recent times, people assumed the universe was timeless and never ending.
Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 4:00 am
by harry
Hello Orca
I agree.
But! without evidence its like --------- in the wind.
Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 8:53 am
by Orca
harry wrote:Hello Orca
I agree.
But! without evidence its like --------- in the wind.
huh?
Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 12:40 am
by orin stepanek
Looking at Traylor's map; it doesn't look like the population of galaxies get any thinner; I would assume the it continues on and on.
Orin
Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2005 10:11 am
by harry
Hello Orca
Huh? what do you do in the wind?
Hello Orin, I agree with you 100%.
Its only recently that ideas about the expanding universe and deep field images have changed the thoughts onf many yes man cosmoligists.
Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2005 12:34 pm
by Empeda2
orin stepanek wrote:Looking at Traylor's map; it doesn't look like the population of galaxies get any thinner; I would assume the it continues on and on.
Orin
Which in the current model is explained by Inflation - the visible universe is just a little bubble...
Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 8:29 am
by harry