Pretty much. "Embargo" is the favored word, though.ta152h0 wrote:it was noted that Phylae would be taking images as it descends. Is ESA quarantining the images for later release ?
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Re: APOD: Welcome to a Comet (2014 Nov 14)
didn't Stardust bring back primordial materials ? And it came down quite hard.
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And that's too bad because if health care investigators chose to share information, as did the physicists' in the early age of internet, I wonder how much further along we'd be in treating cancer and other serious medical conditions. There's no future in withholding information when that information only serves to enlighten others.geckzilla wrote:Pretty much. "Embargo" is the favored word, though.ta152h0 wrote:it was noted that Phylae would be taking images as it descends. Is ESA quarantining the images for later release ?
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There are also good and important reasons not to release raw data immediately. It depends on the nature of the data, the nature of the research, and the source of the funding. What's needed is some sort of balance between openness and the rights of those actually conducting the research.Ron-Astro Pharmacist wrote:And that's too bad because if health care investigators chose to share information, as did the physicists' in the early age of internet, I wonder how much further along we'd be in treating cancer and other serious medical conditions. There's no future in withholding information when that information only serves to enlighten others.
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Hopefully a nice batch of raw data will arrive in six months. I'm more annoyed that the data that does come out is in JPEG format. I figure the morsels they release should at least be available as PNG or TIFF.
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Re: APOD: Welcome to a Comet (2014 Nov 14)
Looks like craggy beach rock at the beach...only this beach is a looooong way off....
Excellent image though. Too bad about the harpoon failing...hope they can still continue well enough.
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I would agree that I would be reluctant to share information that I worked hard to obtain only to have others benefit unjustly. But it seems unjust that information , meaningless on its own, isn't shared for reasons that don't involve safety or, possibly in this case, that they would convey misinformation or confusion. I also agree balance and rights must be observed and that probably does represent ESA's reluctance to release their property.Chris Peterson wrote:There are also good and important reasons not to release raw data immediately. It depends on the nature of the data, the nature of the research, and the source of the funding. What's needed is some sort of balance between openness and the rights of those actually conducting the research.Ron-Astro Pharmacist wrote:And that's too bad because if health care investigators chose to share information, as did the physicists' in the early age of internet, I wonder how much further along we'd be in treating cancer and other serious medical conditions. There's no future in withholding information when that information only serves to enlighten others.
I just want to see it – now.
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Re: APOD: Welcome to a Comet (2014 Nov 14)
Breaking news from ESA : Philae still alive and busy sending data now !
Re: APOD: Welcome to a Comet (2014 Nov 14)
Also, they are using the drill to try and rotate the lab so solar pannels are better oriented ! Wow !Czerno o wrote:Breaking news from ESA : Philae still alive and busy sending data now !
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All of the Twitter updates about Philae just went from being happy about maneuvers and receiving data to grim endings and voltage plummeting.
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They were able to turn it to get more sunlight. Looks like Philae is not yet dead.
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Re: APOD: Welcome to a Comet (2014 Nov 14)
Philae is asleep now after sending all data and performing all planned experiments. It may wake up when conditions become right and the lander gets more sunlight as the comet approaches the sun.
Good luck, Philae, and sleep well.
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Re: APOD: Welcome to a Comet (2014 Nov 14)
I always hoped Huygens would bounce back but ........
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Re: APOD: Welcome to a Comet (2014 Nov 14)
Thought some of you might enjoy a new original song, "Transistor Sister" inspired by (and featuring) the celestial song of Comet 67P:
http://kat330.bandcamp.com/track/transistor-sister
Similar to the earlier APOD and Zarmina's World inspired song, "Glad Gliese":
http://asterisk.apod.com/viewtopic.php? ... e+#p183002
Thanks! Kathleen
http://kat330.bandcamp.com/track/transistor-sister
Similar to the earlier APOD and Zarmina's World inspired song, "Glad Gliese":
http://asterisk.apod.com/viewtopic.php? ... e+#p183002
Thanks! Kathleen
Re: APOD: Welcome to a Comet (2014 Nov 14)
Thanks, I liked it!kat330 wrote:Thought some of you might enjoy a new original song, "Transistor Sister" inspired by (and featuring) the celestial song of Comet 67P:
http://kat330.bandcamp.com/track/transistor-sister
Similar to the earlier APOD and Zarmina's World inspired song, "Glad Gliese":
http://asterisk.apod.com/viewtopic.php? ... e+#p183002
Thanks! Kathleen
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Re: APOD: Welcome to a Comet (2014 Nov 14)
I liked them both. Thank you Kathleen.Ann wrote:Thanks, I liked it!kat330 wrote:Thought some of you might enjoy a new original song, "Transistor Sister" inspired by (and featuring) the celestial song of Comet 67P:
http://kat330.bandcamp.com/track/transistor-sister
Similar to the earlier APOD and Zarmina's World inspired song, "Glad Gliese":
http://asterisk.apod.com/viewtopic.php? ... e+#p183002
Thanks! Kathleen![]()
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