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Re: APOD: A Quadruple Lunar Halo Over Spain (2012 Dec 03)
Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 5:41 pm
by Chris Peterson
florid_snow wrote:Getting corrected by Chris is like a dream come true, I always appreciate reading your clear comments on here.
Thanks... but you made me spit my coffee onto my keyboard when I saw that! (A perfect storm- your comment and I was listening to Tim Minchin at the same time.)
Re: APOD: A Quadruple Lunar Halo Over Spain (2012 Dec 03)
Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 5:51 pm
by orin stepanek
Interesting photo; but was the fish-eye lens necessary to capture the view? I think it could be a beautiful photo if done with regular photography! Just MHO!
Re: APOD: A Quadruple Lunar Halo Over Spain (2012 Dec 03)
Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 6:09 pm
by Chris Peterson
orin stepanek wrote:Interesting photo; but was the fish-eye lens necessary to capture the view? I think it could be a beautiful photo if done with regular photography! Just MHO!
A 46° halo is specified by its radius. In other words, just capturing it completely (which this image does not) requires a vertical field of view of 92°, which (given typical image aspect ratios) means a horizontal FOV of 140°. That requires what is commonly called an ultra wide angle lens, which is probably what was used for this image (not a fisheye).
Re: APOD: A Quadruple Lunar Halo Over Spain (2012 Dec 03)
Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 6:58 pm
by JohnD
http://www.atoptics.co.uk/fz472.htm
That is more explanatory!
Thnaks, furry snow!
John
Re: APOD: A Quadruple Lunar Halo Over Spain (2012 Dec 03)
Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 7:00 pm
by orin stepanek
Chris Peterson wrote:orin stepanek wrote:Interesting photo; but was the fish-eye lens necessary to capture the view? I think it could be a beautiful photo if done with regular photography! Just MHO!
A 46° halo is specified by its radius. In other words, just capturing it completely (which this image does not) requires a vertical field of view of 92°, which (given typical image aspect ratios) means a horizontal FOV of 140°. That requires what is commonly called an ultra wide angle lens, which is probably what was used for this image (not a fisheye).
Thanks for the explanation Chris!
![Cool 8-)](./images/smilies/icon_cool.gif)
Re: APOD: A Quadruple Lunar Halo Over Spain (2012 Dec 03)
Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 7:27 pm
by Indigo_Sunrise
Chris Peterson wrote:Indigo_Sunrise wrote:Can someone please explain the difference between the '46* halo' and the 'infralateral arc'?
In that image, they look like they are part of the same halo/arc....
The two are formed by different mechanisms. By all accounts, they can be difficult to distinguish from each other, and are easily confused. There's some good information
here.
From the link you provided:
The lower colourful halo some 46° below the sun is an infralateral or circumhorizon arc. Note the greens and blues which would not be present in a 46° halo.
But in the image it looks as though the 46* halo is merely a continuation of the infralateral arc, since they both look as though they have the green and blue colors. Wouldn't that mean there are only THREE lunar halos in the image for today......? Or where would the 'separation' between the two halos be?
(
I'm still ![Confused :?](./images/smilies/icon_confused.gif)
)
Re: APOD: A Quadruple Lunar Halo Over Spain (2012 Dec 03)
Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 7:40 pm
by Starlight Lover
Re: APOD: A Quadruple Lunar Halo Over Spain (2012 Dec 03)
Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 7:56 pm
by webolife
The CHA actually nearly parallels [ie. as an arc of a concentric circle with] the horizon, so does not correspond to an angle with respect to the central line of light/sight. In an unusual halo phenomenon in Seattle a couple years ago, there was a CHA projected nearly 30 degrees to both left and right of a pair of sundogs [22 deg halo].
We get quite a few irridescent clouds around Seattle, lots of sundogs, and the occasional pillar of fire. Usually just faint 22-deg moon halos, and occasionally a bright lunar coronal halo. The most surprising and amazing halos I've seen were a triple corona of the sun sharpened by its projection through a grove of leafless trees about five winters ago; and a fog bow on the shore of the Washington coast right at sunrise. I was out for a stroll on the beach, completely immersed in fog looking westward, with a nearly 360-deg fog bow surrounding my bright heiligenschein-ed shadow.
Re: APOD: A Quadruple Lunar Halo Over Spain (2012 Dec 03)
Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 8:03 pm
by LocalColor
Very lovely photo today.
Re: APOD: A Quadruple Lunar Halo Over Spain (2012 Dec 03)
Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 9:32 pm
by ronboy
A lunar Halo = What Neil Armstrong "really" said first.
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Re: APOD: A Quadruple Lunar Halo Over Spain (2012 Dec 03)
Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 9:46 pm
by neufer
Chris Peterson wrote:florid_snow wrote:
Getting corrected by Chris is like a dream come true, I always appreciate reading your clear comments on here.
Thanks... but you made me spit my coffee onto my keyboard when I saw that!
Glad I wasn't drinking coffee.
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Re: APOD: A Quadruple Lunar Halo Over Spain (2012 Dec 03)
Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 11:56 pm
by saturno2
This picture is very beautiful
Moon Halo multifaceted.
Over Spain
This composition is great for a Christmas Card.
Truly
Re: APOD: A Quadruple Lunar Halo Over Spain (2012 Dec 03)
Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 1:33 am
by Wadsworth
ronboy wrote:A lunar Halo = What Neil Armstrong "really" said first.
![Laughing :lol2:](./images/smilies/asterisk_laugh.gif)
![Laughing :lol2:](./images/smilies/asterisk_laugh.gif)
Re: APOD: A Quadruple Lunar Halo Over Spain (2012 Dec 03)
Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 5:07 am
by neufer
ronboy wrote:
A lunar Halo = What Neil Armstrong "really" said first.
![Laughing :lol2:](./images/smilies/asterisk_laugh.gif)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hello wrote:
<<Hello, with that spelling, was used in publications as early as 1833.
According to the Oxford English Dictionary,
hello is an alteration of hallo, hollo,
which came from Old High German "
halâ, holâ, emphatic imperative of halôn,
holôn to fetch, used especially in hailing a ferryman.">>
- Twelfth Night Act 1, Scene 5
VIOLA: Make me a willow cabin at your gate,
- And call upon my soul within the house;
Write loyal cantons of contemned love
And sing them loud even in the dead of night;
Halloo your name to the reverberate hills
And make the babbling gossip of the air
Cry out 'Olivia!' O, You should not rest
Between the elements of air and earth,
But you should pity me!
Re: APOD: A Quadruple Lunar Halo Over Spain (2012 Dec 03)
Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 1:51 pm
by RedFishBlueFish
Chris Peterson wrote:RedFishBlueFish wrote:What is the bright blue spot in Orion, just outside the inner halo at about 5 o'clock: UFO, Healing Brush gone wrong, or some sort of reflection within the lens?
It appears to be an internal reflection. I see a subtle hexagonal structure aligned with the lunar diffraction spikes, created by the 6-leaf iris in this lens.
Yes, I do believe that you are correct.
The moon is also the same shape.
I
was hoping for UFO though
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Re: APOD: A Quadruple Lunar Halo Over Spain (2012 Dec 03)
Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 10:43 pm
by JohnD
Without showing disrespect, will anyone who wishes to post about how lovely this picture or any other will be on Christmas Card please do so in the Christmas card thread?
Astronomical pictures are undoubtedly beautiful, but an excess of oohing and ahhing is inappropriate.
Christmas?
Bah! Humbug!
Scrooge
Re: APOD: A Quadruple Lunar Halo Over Spain (2012 Dec 03)
Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 11:03 pm
by owlice
Oohing and ahhing is completely appropriate, whether in excess or done sparingly.
Some publications
are purchased for the pictures, even if the articles are excellent!
![Very Happy :D](./images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif)
Re: APOD: A Quadruple Lunar Halo Over Spain (2012 Dec 03)
Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 12:07 am
by Beyond
Re: APOD: A Quadruple Lunar Halo Over Spain (2012 Dec 03)
Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 3:12 am
by astrosirius
Una preciosa imagen del Halo de la luna en pleno Invierno, felicidades!!
Google Translate wrote:A beautiful image of the Moon Halo in winter, congratulations!
http://www.astrosirius.org