APOD: MAGIC Star Trails (2011 Oct 14)

Comments and questions about the APOD on the main view screen.
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Re: APOD: MAGIC Star Trails (2011 Oct 14)

Post by bystander » Sat Oct 15, 2011 12:15 am

NoelC wrote:I always got a kick out of how they could call up and get someone in 1 second or less. "Kirk to Enterprise". Immediately he hears back "Scott here", with no annoying delay. No one manning the radio on the other end ever happened to be in the bathroom.
It didn't matter how far away the Enterprise was, either. FTL communications, must have used neutrinos. :)
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Re: APOD: MAGIC Star Trails (2011 Oct 14)

Post by alter-ego » Sat Oct 15, 2011 6:45 pm

Chris Peterson wrote:
alter-ego wrote:The telescope is designed for light collection, and not for imaging in the classical telescope sense. Each element just needs to send photons to a multi-element detector for signal amplitude, and, I'm speculating, maybe providing some limited spatial imaging capability(?) along with having different performance characteristics (e.g spectral information).
I believe these are true imaging telescopes, not simple energy collectors. The cameras have 3.6° fields of view, and 576 pixels, which have individual imaging scales of 0.1 to 0.2 degrees, depending on their location in the sensor array.
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That's true. My statement overconstrained the definition of an imaging optic, and I should have elaborated a bit. To qualify as a "classical" imager, I imposed the criteria that all the mirror elements have to be cophased, i.e. at least near-diffraction limited which MAGIC telescopes are far from that. Geometrical imaging using element sub-telescopes with overlapping, non-interferring, intensity spots is a valid form of "imaging". Said another way, a poor-quality (relatively speaking! :)) optical telescope will still be an imaging telescope, just not a good one.

FYI, the minimum focused spot size achievable by the MAGIC telescopes ≈ 5mm @ 17m, or about 20% of the camera's central, higher resolution, PMT 1" aperture. The picture shows element mirror point-source images before alignment and at "best focus" (inset)
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Re: APOD: MAGIC Star Trails (2011 Oct 14)

Post by owlice » Mon Oct 17, 2011 8:32 pm

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