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Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 8:33 pm
by BMAONE23
It has also served to bring to light, the shear numbers of ignorant people that there are in the world. (and might serve to identify them) Evident in the Flat Earth Society, and Moon Landing Hoaxers
Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 9:09 pm
by bystander
BMAONE23 wrote:It has also served to bring to light, the shear numbers of ignorant people that there are in the world. (and might serve to identify them) Evident in the Flat Earth Society, and Moon Landing Hoaxers
Are you trying to say the earth isn't flat?
I suppose next you'll tell me that earth isn't the center of the universe.
Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 9:14 pm
by Chris Peterson
bystander wrote:I suppose next you'll tell me that earth isn't the center of the universe.
Of course, in a very real sense, the Earth likely
is in the center of the Universe. It's just not unique in that respect.
Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 9:19 pm
by bystander
Chris Peterson wrote:Of course, in a very real sense, the Earth likely is in the center of the Universe. It's just not unique in that respect.
Yes, it would have to be the center of the observable universe since our observations are made from here.
Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 9:26 pm
by Chris Peterson
bystander wrote:Yes, it would have to be the center of the observable universe since our observations are made from here.
That it's in the center of the
observable Universe is self evident. It's likely in the center of the
entire Universe, as well, since- in three dimensions- any point in the Universe can be considered the center.
But that's a discussion best handled in a different thread.
Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 9:48 pm
by bystander
Chris Peterson wrote:... It's likely in the center of the entire Universe, as well, since- in three dimensions- any point in the Universe can be considered the center.
OK, Chris, I bite. I have to admit I appreciate your observations and explanations, sometimes I can even see where they're going before you get there. Most of the time they confirm what my limited expertise(?) has led me to believe. Now, I think I would like to see your explanation of how
any point can be considered the center of a universe that has no center.
Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 11:21 pm
by Chris Peterson
bystander wrote:OK, Chris, I bite. I have to admit I appreciate your observations and explanations, sometimes I can even see where they're going before you get there. Most of the time they confirm what my limited expertise(?) has led me to believe. Now, I think I would like to see your explanation of how any point can be considered the center of a universe that has no center.
Any 2D point on the surface of a sphere can be considered the center of the 2D "plane" that is the surface. Similarly, any 3D point on the 3D "surface" of a 4D universe can be considered the center. This is the standard model of the Universe.
Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 2:12 pm
by bystander
Chris Peterson wrote:Any 2D point on the surface of a sphere can be considered the center of the 2D "plane" that is the surface. Similarly, any 3D point on the 3D "surface" of a 4D universe can be considered the center. This is the standard model of the Universe.
Thanks, Chris! I had to
not think about that for a while. While re-reading your post over coffee this morning, the picture snapped into view and I had to say "Well, DUHH!"
