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Re: APOD: The Mysterious Voynich Manuscript (2010 Jan 31)
Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 2:06 pm
by JohnD
New Scientist reports new work that favours the Voynich being "a secret language or code".
See:
http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg2 ... -text.html
John
Re: APOD: The Mysterious Voynich Manuscript (2010 Jan 31)
Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 2:08 pm
by geckzilla
See the end of the previous page in the thread.
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Re: APOD: The Mysterious Voynich Manuscript (2010 Jan 31)
Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 5:13 pm
by JohnD
Oh, nads!
Spocked by BMA1.
John
Re: APOD: The Mysterious Voynich Manuscript (2010 Jan 31)
Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 9:11 pm
by BMAONE23
It is an interesting read though
Re: APOD: The Mysterious Voynich Manuscript (2010 Jan 31)
Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 11:55 pm
by wincel
Hi, I saw that Voynich manuscript picture mentioned and when looking at it, the letters looks indeed peculiar. Now I'm into fantasy things and for webdesign you often need something that looks "fantasy" enough as a font, so I'm always out looking for unique fonts/letters and languages to use that hit a "style" or atmosphere. Long story short, I've seen only a single page from that Voynich manuscript but doesn't it look a lot like the Osmanya alphabet?
http://www.obib.de/Schriften/AlteSchrif ... .html~Text
Re: APOD: The Mysterious Voynich Manuscript (2010 Jan 31)
Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 4:04 am
by Beyond
wincel wrote:Hi, I saw that Voynich manuscript picture mentioned and when looking at it, the letters looks indeed peculiar. Now I'm into fantasy things and for webdesign you often need something that looks "fantasy" enough as a font, so I'm always out looking for unique fonts/letters and languages to use that hit a "style" or atmosphere. Long story short, I've seen only a single page from that Voynich manuscript but doesn't it look a lot like the Osmanya alphabet?
http://www.obib.de/Schriften/AlteSchrif ... .html~Text
I couldn't find any Osmanya alphabet at your link. Where's it hiding?
Re: APOD: The Mysterious Voynich Manuscript (2010 Jan 31)
Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 6:04 am
by Case
Beyond wrote:
I couldn't find any Osmanya alphabet at your link. Where's it hiding?
It’s there, in the Africa section, just before the America section:
Somalisch (Osmanya)
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Re: APOD: The Mysterious Voynich Manuscript (2010 Jan 31)
Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 12:55 pm
by Beyond
Thanks Case. That seems to be something that you wouldn't have known, unless you knew it.
Re: APOD: The Mysterious Voynich Manuscript (2010 Jan 31)
Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 2:43 am
by wincel
It is an artificial letter system some sheik came up with (he invented a few) to write Somali language down. He published it in the early 1920th.
Re: APOD: The Mysterious Voynich Manuscript (2010 Jan 31)
Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2015 2:33 pm
by The_Pyat
Records an ancient pilgrimage from Fennoscandia to the Perm in the northern Urals marked by passage via waterways, many of which were subterranean.
http://voynichbirths.blogspot.com/2015/ ... cient.html
Re: APOD: The Mysterious Voynich Manuscript (2010 Jan 31)
Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2016 3:19 pm
by JohnD
News about the Voynich manuscript from Keele U in the UK, reported in
New Scientist.
Gordon Rugg noted that the language in the manuscript follows Zipf's Law, a statistical distribution whereby in "natural language utterances, the frequency of any word is inversely proportional to its rank in the frequency table." I quote from the Wiki article, because I don't understand it either. This has been taken as evidence that the manuscript is in a real language, not gibberish. Rugg has been able to construct a simple system using a grid of nonsense syllables and a card with holes in it that revealed syllables of the grid, that when put together in a passage of 'text', satisfy Zipf. Thus the previous assertion is proved wrong.
It sounds like the Acronym Generator, but is worthy of publication in an proper journal, Cryptologia -
http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10. ... 16.1206753
John
Re: APOD: The Mysterious Voynich Manuscript (2010 Jan 31)
Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2017 2:00 pm
by geckzilla
Re: APOD: The Mysterious Voynich Manuscript (2010 Jan 31)
Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2017 2:14 pm
by Chris Peterson
Interesting. It certainly sounds reasonable and plausible. I'd like to hear some commentary by other medievalists.
What this has to do with Astronomy.
Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2017 3:57 pm
by neufer
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voynich_manuscript wrote:
<<Astronomical, 21 folios: Contains circular diagrams suggestive of astronomy or astrology, some of them with suns, moons, and stars. One series of 12 diagrams depicts conventional symbols for the zodiacal constellations (two fish for Pisces, a bull for Taurus, a hunter with crossbow for Sagittarius, etc.). Each of these has 30 female figures arranged in two or more concentric bands. Most of the females are at least partly nude, and each holds what appears to be a labeled star or is shown with the star attached to either arm by what could be a tether or cord of some kind. The last two pages of this section were lost (Aquarius and Capricornus, roughly January and February), while Aries and Taurus are split into four paired diagrams with 15 women and 15 stars each. Some of these diagrams are on fold-out pages.>>