"S" On the Moon! Moon's non-illumination (03Sep08)

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"S" On the Moon! Moon's non-illumination (03Sep08)

Post by smitty » Wed Sep 03, 2008 10:34 am

Has anyone else noticed the large, clear, prominent letter "S" stamped on our moon? It's clearly visible in two of the three images in the apod for 3 September. Guess that would be on the side facing away from earth? Hmmmm . . . the speculative mind could have a lot of fun with this! Of course, even though my moniker is "Smitty," I'm not taking responsibility for it. I have an alibi. I wasn't anywhere near the moon when it happened. Honest!.

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Make That Two Out of Four

Post by smitty » Wed Sep 03, 2008 10:39 am

Ooooops! Please make that "visible in two out of the four images"! In addition to not having been near the moon that day I also wasn't near a math class. I don't feel so bad, however, knowing that four out of every three people are confused by fractions.

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Re: "S" On the Moon! (03 Sep 2008)

Post by emc » Wed Sep 03, 2008 12:03 pm

smitty wrote:Has anyone else noticed the large, clear, prominent letter "S" stamped on our moon? It's clearly visible in two of the three images in the apod for 3 September. Guess that would be on the side facing away from earth? Hmmmm . . . the speculative mind could have a lot of fun with this! Of course, even though my moniker is "Smitty," I'm not taking responsibility for it. I have an alibi. I wasn't anywhere near the moon when it happened. Honest!.
http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap080903.html

You're right smitty... plain as the nose on my face. And quite a nicely structured "S" at that.

I expect it may be some sort of catalog labeling for the advanced alien race that is monitoring our progress on earth. :wink:

And it does make one wonder what the "S" might stand for... "Silly" earthlings perhaps... dancing all around and such...???
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Re: Make That Two Out of Four

Post by orin stepanek » Wed Sep 03, 2008 12:49 pm

smitty wrote:Ooooops! Please make that "visible in two out of the four images"! In addition to not having been near the moon that day I also wasn't near a math class. I don't feel so bad, however, knowing that four out of every three people are confused by fractions.
Is that 'S' you see on the Moon or on the Earth? I 'm seeing what looks like an 'S' on the Earth on two of the photos. :?

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Re: Make That Two Out of Four

Post by bystander » Wed Sep 03, 2008 1:23 pm

orin stepanek wrote:Is that 'S' you see on the Moon or on the Earth? I 'm seeing what looks like an 'S' on the Earth on two of the photos.
Moon.... Top right and bottom left photos.

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Re: Make That Two Out of Four

Post by orin stepanek » Wed Sep 03, 2008 1:56 pm

bystander wrote:
orin stepanek wrote:Is that 'S' you see on the Moon or on the Earth? I 'm seeing what looks like an 'S' on the Earth on two of the photos.
Moon.... Top right and bottom left photos.
OK! I had to look a little harder. My eyes aren't so good anymore. :shock:
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Post by neufer » Wed Sep 03, 2008 4:26 pm

I had mentioned that due to the moon's orbital velocity of ~ 1 km/s
that a lidar beam bouncing off of a lunar retroreflector would be sent
back where it came from in the moon's frame of reference but not in
the earth's frame of reference such that the center of the return beam
would end up centered 2.5km. east of the lidar observatory.

However, as apparent in http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap080903.html ,
the earth is also rotating in the same eastward direction as the
moon at about 0.4 km/s such that the center of the return beam
ends up centered only 1.5km. east of the lidar observatory.

Since the return beam is much wider than 1.5km. this is not a problem.
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Re: "S" On the Moon! (03 Sep 2008)

Post by smitty » Wed Sep 03, 2008 6:07 pm

emc wrote:
I expect it may be some sort of catalog labeling for the advanced alien race that is monitoring our progress on earth. :wink:
Another friend suggested perhaps it was done by Superman during his rebellious, teenage years. Perhaps his version of carving his initials into a tree trunk? Super vandalism?

Btw, I can produce credit card receipts which pretty much prove that I was at Starbucks when this act of vandalism was done. In fact, that would also apply to when just about anything was done, come to think of it. :(

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Post by JohnD » Wed Sep 03, 2008 10:25 pm

What?
On those pics the Moon is a featureless brown orb.

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Post by BMAONE23 » Thu Sep 04, 2008 4:48 am

Is the "S" in reference, the lighter toned pattern that "S" curves around a couple of dark regions?

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Post by orin stepanek » Thu Sep 04, 2008 12:54 pm

I think the craters are causing it. With the moon so dark it is really hard to tell. If you look hard enough you can see what looks almost like an S; look harder and you can almost see a figure 8. The greenish S on the Earth is a lot easier to see.
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Re: "S" On the Moon! (03 Sep 2008)

Post by emc » Thu Sep 04, 2008 6:06 pm

smitty wrote:
emc wrote:
I expect it may be some sort of catalog labeling for the advanced alien race that is monitoring our progress on earth. :wink:
Another friend suggested perhaps it was done by Superman during his rebellious, teenage years. Perhaps his version of carving his initials into a tree trunk? Super vandalism?

Btw, I can produce credit card receipts which pretty much prove that I was at Starbucks when this act of vandalism was done. In fact, that would also apply to when just about anything was done, come to think of it. :(
Hi smitty,

Your persistent denial is incriminating. You might want to accept blame in some satirical fashion in order to decrease the suspicion your denials have created... you might try something like... "Yeah, I'm pretty proud of getting that "S" shaped just right... wasn't easy you know... had to build my own spaceship which wasn't a tiny task in itself!"

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Re: "S" On the Moon! (03 Sep 2008)

Post by bystander » Thu Sep 04, 2008 8:34 pm

emc wrote:Hi smitty,

Your persistent denial is incriminating...
Yea, and he keeps saying he was at 'S'tarbucks.

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Re: "S" On the Moon! (03 Sep 2008)

Post by emc » Thu Sep 04, 2008 8:56 pm

bystander wrote:
emc wrote:Hi smitty,

Your persistent denial is incriminating...
Yea, and he keeps saying he was at 'S'tarbucks.
Yeah, you’re right bystander… come to think of it, his partiality to the frequent use of “S” is further incrimination isn’t it… sure seems like a simple open and shut case seeing smitty’s “S”s showing up in so many words… they say every criminal has a subconscious desire show off their skills.
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Moon's non-illumination (APOD Sept 3, 2008)

Post by Ronaldo » Fri Sep 12, 2008 6:21 pm

Why is the "right" half of the moon not bright? :?

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Re: Moon's non-illumination (APOD Sept 3, 2008)

Post by emc » Fri Sep 12, 2008 6:29 pm

Ronaldo wrote:Why is the "right" half of the moon not bright? :?
Hi Ronaldo,

The image http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap080903.html is composed in infrared.

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BTW (by the way) - There is a thread on this APOD called "S" On the Moon!... it is a bit zany... here is the link http://asterisk.apod.com/vie ... hp?t=14424
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Post by Ronaldo » Fri Sep 12, 2008 6:43 pm

Thanks - both for the reply and the welcome.

That explanation did occur to me, but didn't know why they would use visible aspects of earth and not of the moon.



maybe "they" chose not to show more, hoping nobody would notice the "S" (previous posts)

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Post by emc » Fri Sep 12, 2008 7:00 pm

Ronaldo wrote:Thanks - both for the reply and the welcome.

That explanation did occur to me, but didn't know why they would use visible aspects of earth and not of the moon.
There is a link "images of its home world" in the APOD caption that contains more info.
Ronaldo wrote:maybe "they" chose not to show more, hoping nobody would notice the "S" (previous posts)
Not sure what you mean.
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Post by BMAONE23 » Fri Sep 12, 2008 7:31 pm

If you consider that the Solar Illumination (light source) is located to the right of the image, then is becomes apparent that the dark half of the moon and Earth is due to the fact that the Night side of both orbs face away from the sun

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