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hello aqua
your link: http://web.umr.edu/~om/report_to_fcr/report_to_fcr1.htm
is very interesting.
Bilderback your chicken and the egg,,,,,,,,,,,,smile the egg came first.
Aqua i will come back to your link later. I need sleep
your link: http://web.umr.edu/~om/report_to_fcr/report_to_fcr1.htm
is very interesting.
Bilderback your chicken and the egg,,,,,,,,,,,,smile the egg came first.
Aqua i will come back to your link later. I need sleep
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We know that the core of the sun and blcakholes is extremely dense. How dense is the issue.
Under these extreme conditions quaks and what ever are compacted in such a way that makes them normal to be under those conditions.
Some say it takes a number of solar units to create a black hole. Lets say two for calaculations.
Solar units less than the critical number do not have an event horizon. So that at the external surface lose the forces to keep the quaks stable. Thus quaks come together at the external surface forming neutrons. Giving rise to a neutron core as we see it.
Under these extreme conditions quaks and what ever are compacted in such a way that makes them normal to be under those conditions.
Some say it takes a number of solar units to create a black hole. Lets say two for calaculations.
Solar units less than the critical number do not have an event horizon. So that at the external surface lose the forces to keep the quaks stable. Thus quaks come together at the external surface forming neutrons. Giving rise to a neutron core as we see it.
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Hello BMAONE23
Why the egg.?
Because the egg evolved first before multicellular animals or plants.
The egg diversified and evolution tells the rest of the story.
Someone asked me How many times can an atom be compacted if it was broken down to lets say quaks.
The answer is about 30,000,000,000,000,000,000
Imagine if matter is able to be compacted so many time.
Imagine the extreme gravitational and electromagnetic forces created.
Imagine the extreme heat.
This type of zone creates a very stable area for quaks to remain stable.
Create a high density plasma like that and you have the core of a sun a the plasma of black holes.
The plasma gives the sun billions of years of stabilty and energy. How do you theink the sun can release so much and energy. It has two form of energy one from the core the other secondary is fusion.
Why the egg.?
Because the egg evolved first before multicellular animals or plants.
The egg diversified and evolution tells the rest of the story.
Someone asked me How many times can an atom be compacted if it was broken down to lets say quaks.
The answer is about 30,000,000,000,000,000,000
Imagine if matter is able to be compacted so many time.
Imagine the extreme gravitational and electromagnetic forces created.
Imagine the extreme heat.
This type of zone creates a very stable area for quaks to remain stable.
Create a high density plasma like that and you have the core of a sun a the plasma of black holes.
The plasma gives the sun billions of years of stabilty and energy. How do you theink the sun can release so much and energy. It has two form of energy one from the core the other secondary is fusion.
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Harry,
You sure are great for spawning discussions.
. Just a curiosity on the Egg subject though:
Bird eggs are hard shelled and require an incubation period to hatch. If the egg gets cold, the embryo will perish.
If the bird egg came first, who laid it and who incubated it?
If the bird was created first (even thru gradual evolution) it would become a chicken prior to laying a chicken egg.
You sure are great for spawning discussions.
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Bird eggs are hard shelled and require an incubation period to hatch. If the egg gets cold, the embryo will perish.
If the bird egg came first, who laid it and who incubated it?
If the bird was created first (even thru gradual evolution) it would become a chicken prior to laying a chicken egg.
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Who am I
Scientist,,,,, evolutionist,,,,cosmologist
As for the egg, stop thinking within the egg. Man puts his own emotional thoughts and locks and traps himself like a shell around an egg.
Relax and break the shell of knowldge around you by keeping an open mind.
Life started on this planet some 3 to 4 billion years ago first as a non cellular type of replicating type of living thing. Than the cell evolved with all its parts than these cells formed colonies and eventually created the worm like and colonial multycellular living organism. Than the shell fish animals and so forth. But! the egg had to evolve first before any other multycellular animals, for without the egg being evolved nothing would come second base or third base and Abbot and Costello would not have their scene.
The chicken and all the animals came second base,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, smile
Scientist,,,,, evolutionist,,,,cosmologist
As for the egg, stop thinking within the egg. Man puts his own emotional thoughts and locks and traps himself like a shell around an egg.
Relax and break the shell of knowldge around you by keeping an open mind.
Life started on this planet some 3 to 4 billion years ago first as a non cellular type of replicating type of living thing. Than the cell evolved with all its parts than these cells formed colonies and eventually created the worm like and colonial multycellular living organism. Than the shell fish animals and so forth. But! the egg had to evolve first before any other multycellular animals, for without the egg being evolved nothing would come second base or third base and Abbot and Costello would not have their scene.
The chicken and all the animals came second base,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, smile
Harry : Smile and live another day.
It is difficult to say if you can compact quarks (notice the 'r'!) as they are very unstable. You fail to mention anything about the colour or strong nuclear force which would be very important in such a contraction.
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Hello empeda2
Neuclear strong forces.
As for color, the closest color would be from a star that has shed its shell.
Think of it this way. It behaves like a giant neucleus fully compacted to boot. Would somelse like to calculated how many atoms hydrogen can fit in its own volumn.
BMAONE23 ,,,smile,,,,,,,,thats the name of the game. Would you like me to be a yes man.
Have a nice day
Neuclear strong forces.
As for color, the closest color would be from a star that has shed its shell.
Think of it this way. It behaves like a giant neucleus fully compacted to boot. Would somelse like to calculated how many atoms hydrogen can fit in its own volumn.
BMAONE23 ,,,smile,,,,,,,,thats the name of the game. Would you like me to be a yes man.
Have a nice day
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and it keeps going, see this link http://skyandtelescope.com/news/article_1627_1.asp
and than go to the topic for dicussion on Magnetar.
and than go to the topic for dicussion on Magnetar.
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I Thought this maybe of interest
Huge Quake Cracks Star
Astronomers have found the first evidence of cracks in a neutron star's crust. The star cracked when it was rocked by the strongest "starquake" ever recorded, researchers said last week.
Last December, astronomers worldwide monitored the explosion that caused this starquake. The eruption was huge – in the first 200 milliseconds of the event the star released energy equivalent to what our Sun produces in 250,000 years. It was the brightest explosion ever detected outside of the Milky Way.
http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/0 ... acked.html
Look for magnetars
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Huge Quake Cracks Star
Astronomers have found the first evidence of cracks in a neutron star's crust. The star cracked when it was rocked by the strongest "starquake" ever recorded, researchers said last week.
Last December, astronomers worldwide monitored the explosion that caused this starquake. The eruption was huge – in the first 200 milliseconds of the event the star released energy equivalent to what our Sun produces in 250,000 years. It was the brightest explosion ever detected outside of the Milky Way.
http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/0 ... acked.html
Look for magnetars
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Hello Empeda2
Star core
http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/n ... 31203.html
It discusses the mass of a tea spoon being billions of tons or so.
Neutrons being compacted ever so close.
If this is the case the potential compaction is so great.
30,000,000,000,000,000,000 or so.
This compaction has enough potential energy to last for billions of years.
Fusion cannot exist within this compaction but on the surface of the core of the star. This is why I think the core has two parts. An inner and outer.
Star core
http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/n ... 31203.html
It discusses the mass of a tea spoon being billions of tons or so.
Neutrons being compacted ever so close.
If this is the case the potential compaction is so great.
30,000,000,000,000,000,000 or so.
This compaction has enough potential energy to last for billions of years.
Fusion cannot exist within this compaction but on the surface of the core of the star. This is why I think the core has two parts. An inner and outer.
Harry : Smile and live another day.
Yes but neutron stars are dead cores - there is no fusion occuring in around or near a neutron star. The star is compressed by gravity, but this isn't strong enough to overcome neutron degeneracy, if it were it would collapse into a black hole...
You seems to be a little confused with regard to stellar evolution....
You seems to be a little confused with regard to stellar evolution....
The Artist Formerly Known as Empeda
Merry Xmas to you to Harry!
What I mean is that you've got your protostars and young stars, then you've got your main sequence stars and then you've got your 'dead' stars (with a few steps inbetween but that's the general line...).
White Dwarfs, Neutron Stars, Black Holes etc... are all 'dead' stars - i.e. no fusion.
There's no reason why a main sequence star should have a hyperdense core comparable to neutron stars as gravity is balanced by the nuclear process (hydrostatic equlibrium - http://scienceworld.wolfram.com/physics ... brium.html
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What I mean is that you've got your protostars and young stars, then you've got your main sequence stars and then you've got your 'dead' stars (with a few steps inbetween but that's the general line...).
White Dwarfs, Neutron Stars, Black Holes etc... are all 'dead' stars - i.e. no fusion.
There's no reason why a main sequence star should have a hyperdense core comparable to neutron stars as gravity is balanced by the nuclear process (hydrostatic equlibrium - http://scienceworld.wolfram.com/physics ... brium.html
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Finally some real math! Only 1 potential loophole here; the function they use to integrate pressure/density [13] assumes smooth integratability, based on the gas model. Plasma doesn't always allow that assumption, and the 'Iron Sun' postulate operates from an assumption that there can be discontinuities between plasma layers as concrete as earth's Mohorovicic Discontinuity. Can plasma physicists prove or disprove this conclusively yet? I haven't found anything either way, but that 1% truth can be elusive.
I have always 'placed all of my faith in skepticism', which puts a large burden on the 'proof' (and on me, to accumulate the background to understand the 'proof'). I have a real problem with constant repetition of anything without any real proof; 'it doesn't matter how often you say it, or how loudly you can shout it, it DOESN'T MAKE IT TRUE'. This becomes more important when you consider it in the light of craterchains' signature "It's not what you know............" (btw, the correct attribution of that should be 'Artemus Ward=Charles Farrar Brown, 1834-1867'). Enough ranting - it's all food for thought.
I have always 'placed all of my faith in skepticism', which puts a large burden on the 'proof' (and on me, to accumulate the background to understand the 'proof'). I have a real problem with constant repetition of anything without any real proof; 'it doesn't matter how often you say it, or how loudly you can shout it, it DOESN'T MAKE IT TRUE'. This becomes more important when you consider it in the light of craterchains' signature "It's not what you know............" (btw, the correct attribution of that should be 'Artemus Ward=Charles Farrar Brown, 1834-1867'). Enough ranting - it's all food for thought.
Slan go foill!
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Nice logic goodhaddow, niceeeeeeeeeeeee
Empeda2
Read your link
http://scienceworld.wolfram.com/physics ... brium.html
I do not agree. For now I have not got the time to think let alone sleep.
Oh!! Neuton stars and Black Holes are not dead stars. Quite the opposite.
Merry Xmas
Empeda2
Read your link
http://scienceworld.wolfram.com/physics ... brium.html
I do not agree. For now I have not got the time to think let alone sleep.
Oh!! Neuton stars and Black Holes are not dead stars. Quite the opposite.
Merry Xmas
Harry : Smile and live another day.