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Image M106: A Spiral Galaxy with a Strange Center

Explanation: What's happening at the center of spiral galaxy M106? A swirling disk of stars and gas, M106's appearance is dominated by blue spiral arms and red dust lanes near the nucleus, as shown in the featured image taken from the Kuwaiti desert. The core of M106 glows brightly in radio waves and X-rays where twin jets have been found running the length of the galaxy. An unusual central glow makes M106 one of the closest examples of the Seyfert class of galaxies, where vast amounts of glowing gas are thought to be falling into a central massive black hole. M106, also designated NGC 4258, is a relatively close 23.5 million light years away, spans 60 thousand light years across, and can be seen with a small telescope towards the constellation of the Hunting Dogs (Canes Venatici).

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Re: APOD: M106: A Spiral Galaxy with a Strange... (2024 Oct 09)

Post by Ann » Wed Oct 09, 2024 7:19 am

This is exactly the kind of APOD that I should comment on, but I have no time this morning! (Yes, it's morning here in Sweden). BBL.

But before I go, I'll leave you with two pictures that you might want to ponder in relation to the APOD.



Why does M106 look so strange in one of the pictures I posted? And what is Andromeda doing here?

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Post by VictorBorun » Wed Oct 09, 2024 12:44 pm

Ann wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2024 7:19 am This is exactly the kind of APOD that I should comment on, but I have no time this morning! (Yes, it's morning here in Sweden). BBL.

But before I go, I'll leave you with two pictures that you might want to ponder in relation to the APOD.



Why does M106 look so strange in one of the pictures I posted? And what is Andromeda doing here?

Ann
about 2 pairs of jets, partly seen through the disk

to my eye one pair of jets is going so far from the disk that after returning those 2 jets merely touch the disk again.
I mean the pair of jets we see at a small angle

the other 2 jets return to the disk not so far from the core, and are passing right through the disk there, and have long end segments on the other side.
I mean the pair of jets we see at a large angle, a 〜 tilde spanning more left to right

here's my mix from the images at Chandra site

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Re: APOD: M106: A Spiral Galaxy with a Strange... (2024 Oct 09)

Post by johnnydeep » Wed Oct 09, 2024 1:57 pm

Yeah, the closeup Chandra X-ray view of the center of M106 composite hardly looks like the same galaxy!
Composite image features X-rays from Chandra (blue), radio waves from the VLA (purple), optical data from Hubble (yellow and blue), and infrared with Spitzer (red). Two anomalous arms, which aren't visible at optical wavelengths, appear as purple and blue emissions
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m106.jpg
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Re: APOD: M106: A Spiral Galaxy with a Strange... (2024 Oct 09)

Post by AVAO » Wed Oct 09, 2024 5:07 pm

johnnydeep wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2024 1:57 pm Yeah, the closeup Chandra X-ray view of the center of M106 composite hardly looks like the same galaxy!
Composite image features X-rays from Chandra (blue), radio waves from the VLA (purple), optical data from Hubble (yellow and blue), and infrared with Spitzer (red). Two anomalous arms, which aren't visible at optical wavelengths, appear as purple and blue emissions
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m106.jpg

...quite dynamic area with so many radio galaxies and BH jets...
Click to view full size image 1 or image 2
Original Data: NASA/ESA (UV in blue (GALEX) IR in red (SPITZER) & RADIO in white (LOFAR)) jac berne (flickr)

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Re: APOD: M106: A Spiral Galaxy with a Strange... (2024 Oct 09)

Post by Ann » Wed Oct 09, 2024 5:25 pm

Thanks for the comments, Victor and Johnny! :D

The reason why I posted the picture of the "purple-armed" M106 is that these arms are so unusual. I don't know of any other galaxy that has similar "X-ray—radio arms"!

M106 in X-rays and radio waves:


But the extra arms are completely invisible in infrared light:


So what causes those extra arms?
Chandra X-ray Observatory wrote:

A new study of these anomalous arms made with Spitzer shows that shock waves, similar to sonic booms from supersonic planes, are heating large amounts of gas — equivalent to about 10 million Suns.
What is generating these shock waves? Radio data shows that the supermassive black hole at the center of NGC 4258 is producing powerful jets of high-energy particles. Researchers think that these jets strike the disk of the galaxy and generate shock waves. These shock waves, in turn, heat some of the gas — composed mainly of hydrogen molecules — to thousands of degrees.

So that's one of the differences between M106 and M87, I guess. The extremely powerful jet of M87 doesn't hit the disk of M87, since M87, being an elliptical galaxy, doesn't have a disk.


The jets of M106 hit "thick parts" of the disk of M106 - i.e., I guess, parts that are full of gas and dust - and, the way I understand it, the collision between the jets and the gas and dust of the disk creates shock fronts that give rise to the anomalous arms of M106.



And sooo... M106 has "water masers". What are those? Groan... you are asking me, the math idiot! :doh: :facepalm:


All right. "Masers" are supposedly like lasers, except with a considerably longer wavelength. So what are lasers really?

lasers.linl.gov wrote:

A laser is created when electrons in the atoms in optical materials like glass, crystal, or gas absorb the energy from an electrical current or a light. That extra energy “excites” the electrons enough to move from a lower-energy orbit to a higher-energy orbit around the atom’s nucleus.
Light moves in waves. Ordinary visible light, say from a household light bulb or a flashlight, comprises multiple wavelengths, or colors, and are incoherent, meaning the crests and troughs of the light waves are moving at different wavelengths and in different directions.
This is not quite what incoherent light looks like, but it will have to do:

███ ███ ███
███ ███ ███ ███ ███
███ ███

In a laser beam, the light waves are “coherent,” meaning the beam of photons is moving in the same direction at the same wavelength. This is accomplished by sending the energized electrons through an optical “gain medium” such as a solid material like glass, or a gas.


So the laser beam is something like this:

███ ███ ███ ███ ███ ███ ███ ███ ███ ███ ███


So I guess that a beam of radio waves (?) from the black hole of M106 is passing through some kind of "gain medium", so that all the radio waves that come out of it are the same wavelength. And through that, you can somehow calculate how far away M106 is. Don't ask me to tell you how they do that!!!!

Are water masers like this???

X ray radio infrared optical annotated M86 Chandra Spitzer VLA Hubble.png

And finally, in my first post, I posted a picture of Andromeda alongside M106. What's the deal with that?


Well, M106 and Andromeda are really very similar!

Wikipedia wrote about M106:

It is one of the largest and brightest nearby galaxies, similar in size and luminosity to the Andromeda Galaxy. The supermassive black hole at the core has a mass of (3.9±0.1)×107 M.

Even the black holes are similar!!!

Wikipedia wrote about the black hole of Andromeda:

The mass of M31* was measured at 3–5 × 107 M in 1993, and at 1.1–2.3 × 108 M in 2005.

But for all the similarities between M106 and Andromeda, our big bad sister of a galaxy is at least very much more quiet than M106. Perhaps it is asleep! 😴 Which might perhaps be good for us, or perhaps it doesn't matter (yet) if the black hole of Andromeda is acting up or not, since it is still 2 million light-years away from us.

But you never know what might happen!


Ouch! That must have hurt! Where is the bandaid 🩹 in the First Aid Kit?

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Re: APOD: M106: A Spiral Galaxy with a Strange... (2024 Oct 09)

Post by johnnydeep » Wed Oct 09, 2024 5:54 pm

AVAO wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2024 5:07 pm
johnnydeep wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2024 1:57 pm Yeah, the closeup Chandra X-ray view of the center of M106 composite hardly looks like the same galaxy!
Composite image features X-rays from Chandra (blue), radio waves from the VLA (purple), optical data from Hubble (yellow and blue), and infrared with Spitzer (red). Two anomalous arms, which aren't visible at optical wavelengths, appear as purple and blue emissions
.

m106.jpg

...quite dynamic area with so many radio galaxies and BH jets...
Click to view full size image 1 or image 2
Original Data: NASA/ESA (UV in blue (GALEX) IR in red (SPITZER) & RADIO in white (LOFAR)) jac berne (flickr)
Thanks - I was hoping you'd post one of your mouse-overs!
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Re: APOD: M106: A Spiral Galaxy with a Strange... (2024 Oct 09)

Post by johnnydeep » Wed Oct 09, 2024 5:57 pm

About those 4 "anomalous arms", are they arms of stars and gas like normal galactic arms, or are they just jets of X-ray hot gas emitted either long ago and distorted over time, or still being added to by central BH activity?
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Re: APOD: M106: A Spiral Galaxy with a Strange... (2024 Oct 09)

Post by Ann » Wed Oct 09, 2024 6:00 pm

johnnydeep wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2024 5:57 pm About those 4 "anomalous arms", are they arms of stars and gas like normal galactic arms, or are they just jets of X-ray hot gas emitted either long ago and distorted over time, or still being added to by central BH activity?
I suppose there might be the odd star in those arms, but for the most part, they are made of gas, I'd say. And probably dust, too.

It seems likely that the black hole was active quite recently, whether or not it is pumping out those arms "right now" (whatever "right now" means when we are talking about other galaxies).

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Post by VictorBorun » Wed Oct 09, 2024 6:15 pm

AVAO wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2024 5:07 pm
johnnydeep wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2024 1:57 pm Yeah, the closeup Chandra X-ray view of the center of M106 composite hardly looks like the same galaxy!
Composite image features X-rays from Chandra (blue), radio waves from the VLA (purple), optical data from Hubble (yellow and blue), and infrared with Spitzer (red). Two anomalous arms, which aren't visible at optical wavelengths, appear as purple and blue emissions
.

m106.jpg

...quite dynamic area with so many radio galaxies and BH jets...
Click to view full size image 1 or image 2
Original Data: NASA/ESA (UV in blue (GALEX) IR in red (SPITZER) & RADIO in white (LOFAR)) jac berne (flickr)
nice but 4 jets (like an X chromosome) seem like 3 jets (like a Y chromosome)
I think the brightness for the X ray image should be incremented to make the lost jet come through the disk
The radio image is useless for looking through the disk

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Re: APOD: M106: A Spiral Galaxy with a Strange... (2024 Oct 09)

Post by VictorBorun » Wed Oct 09, 2024 6:31 pm

Ann wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2024 6:00 pm
johnnydeep wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2024 5:57 pm About those 4 "anomalous arms", are they arms of stars and gas like normal galactic arms, or are they just jets of X-ray hot gas emitted either long ago and distorted over time, or still being added to by central BH activity?
I suppose there might be the odd star in those arms, but for the most part, they are made of gas, I'd say. And probably dust, too.

It seems likely that the black hole was active quite recently, whether or not it is pumping out those arms "right now" (whatever "right now" means when we are talking about other galaxies).

Ann
if the 4 "anomalous arms" are jets emitted by the central SMBH then the velocities are rather 300 km/s than 300,000 km/s
(the ultra-relativistic velocities are the reason why we see only 1 of 2 jets from M87*)

to my eye the jets in M106 seem to start at an angle to the disk, then curve back and touch the disk again
One pair is closer to the plane of the disk and their points of return are closer to the galactic centre and those 2 jets clearly pass through and come out at the other side of the galactic plane; the other 2 jets barely make it to their points of return to the disk. If the velocity was like 1000 km/s the jets would go out of M106 never looking back

to cover say 30 kly at 300 km/s they need 30 million years and so the jets may have time to create stars

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Post by VictorBorun » Wed Oct 09, 2024 8:15 pm

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Re: APOD: M106: A Spiral Galaxy with a Strange... (2024 Oct 09)

Post by AVAO » Wed Oct 09, 2024 8:52 pm

Ann wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2024 6:00 pm
johnnydeep wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2024 5:57 pm About those 4 "anomalous arms", are they arms of stars and gas like normal galactic arms, or are they just jets of X-ray hot gas emitted either long ago and distorted over time, or still being added to by central BH activity?
I suppose there might be the odd star in those arms, but for the most part, they are made of gas, I'd say. And probably dust, too.

It seems likely that the black hole was active quite recently, whether or not it is pumping out those arms "right now" (whatever "right now" means when we are talking about other galaxies).

Ann

ThanX Ann Great remarks before.
Currently with JWST you can only see an infinite number of stars in the center.

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Re: APOD: M106: A Spiral Galaxy with a Strange... (2024 Oct 09)

Post by johnnydeep » Wed Oct 09, 2024 9:02 pm

AVAO wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2024 8:52 pm
Ann wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2024 6:00 pm
johnnydeep wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2024 5:57 pm About those 4 "anomalous arms", are they arms of stars and gas like normal galactic arms, or are they just jets of X-ray hot gas emitted either long ago and distorted over time, or still being added to by central BH activity?
I suppose there might be the odd star in those arms, but for the most part, they are made of gas, I'd say. And probably dust, too.

It seems likely that the black hole was active quite recently, whether or not it is pumping out those arms "right now" (whatever "right now" means when we are talking about other galaxies).

Ann

ThanX Ann Great remarks before.
Currently with JWST you can only see an infinite number of stars in the center.

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Where'd you get that amazing JWST zoomed-in image of the nucleus of M106? I can only find this one:

https://www.esa.int/ESA_Multimedia/Imag ... essier_106
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Re: APOD: M106: A Spiral Galaxy with a Strange... (2024 Oct 09)

Post by AVAO » Wed Oct 09, 2024 9:22 pm

johnnydeep wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2024 9:02 pm
AVAO wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2024 8:52 pm
Ann wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2024 6:00 pm

I suppose there might be the odd star in those arms, but for the most part, they are made of gas, I'd say. And probably dust, too.

It seems likely that the black hole was active quite recently, whether or not it is pumping out those arms "right now" (whatever "right now" means when we are talking about other galaxies).

Ann

ThanX Ann Great remarks before.
Currently with JWST you can only see an infinite number of stars in the center.

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Where'd you get that amazing JWST zoomed-in image of the nucleus of M106? I can only find this one:

https://www.esa.int/ESA_Multimedia/Imag ... essier_106
JWST is crazy - look the zoom into the original datas: ZOOOOM: https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/540 ... 24c5_o.jpg

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Post by AVAO » Wed Oct 09, 2024 9:28 pm

VictorBorun wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2024 8:15 pm
M106 combo.jpgM106 combo-.jpg
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...I'm not sure if the galaxy really has a flat disk... Credit: NASA/ESA X-ray in blue (CHANDRA) IR in red (SST)

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Post by johnnydeep » Wed Oct 09, 2024 9:29 pm

AVAO wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2024 9:22 pm
johnnydeep wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2024 9:02 pm
AVAO wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2024 8:52 pm


ThanX Ann Great remarks before.
Currently with JWST you can only see an infinite number of stars in the center.

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Where'd you get that amazing JWST zoomed-in image of the nucleus of M106? I can only find this one:

https://www.esa.int/ESA_Multimedia/Imag ... essier_106
JWST is crazy - look the zoom into the original datas: ZOOOOM: https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/540 ... 24c5_o.jpg
Is your source for that at my link, or some other JWST image?
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Post by VictorBorun » Wed Oct 09, 2024 9:44 pm

AVAO wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2024 9:28 pm
VictorBorun wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2024 8:15 pm
M106 combo.jpgM106 combo-.jpg
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...I'm not sure if the galaxy really has a flat disk... Credit: NASA/ESA X-ray in blue (CHANDRA) IR in red (SST)
To me looks like a dense disk and 4 jets visible just in radio (where the jets are in front of the disk) and x-rays
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Post by VictorBorun » Thu Oct 10, 2024 12:13 am

Ann wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2024 7:19 am
And what is Andromeda doing here?
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my first thought was: a little galaxy beside may somehow have to do with some of the large galaxy's peculiarities
Like a blue ring separated by a gap from the denser inner disk and the core?

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Post by Ann » Thu Oct 10, 2024 3:58 am

johnnydeep wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2024 9:29 pm
AVAO wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2024 9:22 pm
johnnydeep wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2024 9:02 pm

Where'd you get that amazing JWST zoomed-in image of the nucleus of M106? I can only find this one:

https://www.esa.int/ESA_Multimedia/Imag ... essier_106
JWST is crazy - look the zoom into the original datas: ZOOOOM: https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/540 ... 24c5_o.jpg
Is your source for that at my link, or some other JWST image?
Jac (AVAO) creates his own images using data from the great telescopes, don't you, Jac? In this case, you clearly used the "crazy zoom-in" from JWST, cut out a piece of it, reduced it to an appropriate size, added data where a little bit was missing and added color. Isn't that right, Jac?

And by the way, I just love you GALEX, SPITZER and LOFAR combined image of M106. Naturally! :D

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Re: APOD: M106: A Spiral Galaxy with a Strange... (2024 Oct 09)

Post by Ann » Thu Oct 10, 2024 5:11 am

VictorBorun wrote: Thu Oct 10, 2024 12:13 am
Ann wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2024 7:19 am
And what is Andromeda doing here?

Image


my first thought was: a little galaxy beside may somehow have to do with some of the large galaxy's peculiarities
Like a blue ring separated by a gap from the denser inner disk and the core?
Victor, I like the fact that you talk about the blue ring of M106. That ring is probably just two overlapping arms, but there really are galaxies that have rings instead of arms. The best example must be Hoag's Object!


But even a more nearby galaxy like NGC 5101 has amazing ring-like qualities, as seen in this stunning photo by Mark Hanson:


Back to M106 and the Andromeda galaxy. I don't think that the outer blue feature of M106 is really a ring, but rather two overlapping arms. It does look much like a ring, though. And why is that important here? Well, it's because Andromeda too has been described as a ring galaxy!

ESA wrote:

The Andromeda galaxy, one of the closest and best-known companions of our own galaxy, has been hiding from the astronomers' eyes one of its secrets: although it has always been considered as a typical spiral galaxy, it has now been shown to be a spectacular ringed galaxy. This is one of the observations made by the European Space Agency's ISO infrared telescope, whose results are being presented at a meeting in Paris 20-23 October, attended by about 400 astronomers from all over the world.
The ESA text above is really old, as it is from 1998, but still, yes: I can see the rings of Andromeda.

So M106 and Andromeda are really so similar! I'm reminded of the other galaxy that is quite similar to Andromeda, namely M90 in the Virgo Cluster:

Wikipedia wrote:

Messier 90 is a member of the Virgo Cluster, being one of its largest and brightest spiral galaxies, with an absolute magnitude of around −22 (brighter than the Andromeda Galaxy).

Ah! M90 is brighter than Andromeda, and it doesn't seem to be a ring galaxy, either. So I guess, it's close to being similar to Andromeda, but no cigar!


How about the Cigar Galaxy, then? Is it similar to Andromeda? Absolutely not!!! And I have to stop associating like crazy now!

(But before I go, thank you for that imagehover, Victor, I really liked it!)

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Re: APOD: M106: A Spiral Galaxy with a Strange... (2024 Oct 09)

Post by johnnydeep » Thu Oct 10, 2024 11:06 am

Ann wrote: Thu Oct 10, 2024 3:58 am
johnnydeep wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2024 9:29 pm
AVAO wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2024 9:22 pm

JWST is crazy - look the zoom into the original datas: ZOOOOM: https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/540 ... 24c5_o.jpg
Is your source for that at my link, or some other JWST image?
Jac (AVAO) creates his own images using data from the great telescopes, don't you, Jac? In this case, you clearly used the "crazy zoom-in" from JWST, cut out a piece of it, reduced it to an appropriate size, added data where a little bit was missing and added color. Isn't that right, Jac?

And by the way, I just love you GALEX, SPITZER and LOFAR combined image of M106. Naturally! :D

viewtopic.php?p=341666#p341651

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Sure. But I couldn't even find that zoomable version. There is one at https://esawebb.org/images/potm2407a/, but it is much less detailed than Jac's close-up. Unless it's just Jac's image processing expertise that brings out the individual stars?
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Re: APOD: M106: A Spiral Galaxy with a Strange... (2024 Oct 09)

Post by Christian G. » Thu Oct 10, 2024 11:21 am

Great discussion, great galaxy! About those extra arms, if they originate in the central black hole's activity, why do they run more or less parallel to the galaxy instead of perpendicular to it? Is it that the bh's accretion disk is not aligned at all with the galactic disk? Is a SMBH's orientation independent of its host galaxy orientation and can shoot jets virtually in any direction?
As for the maser vs laser part, I think I get it, it's the "water" maser part I don't get! Where does water come in the picture, what's its function?

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Re: APOD: M106: A Spiral Galaxy with a Strange... (2024 Oct 09)

Post by Ann » Thu Oct 10, 2024 3:33 pm

johnnydeep wrote: Thu Oct 10, 2024 11:06 am
Ann wrote: Thu Oct 10, 2024 3:58 am
johnnydeep wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2024 9:29 pm

Is your source for that at my link, or some other JWST image?
Jac (AVAO) creates his own images using data from the great telescopes, don't you, Jac? In this case, you clearly used the "crazy zoom-in" from JWST, cut out a piece of it, reduced it to an appropriate size, added data where a little bit was missing and added color. Isn't that right, Jac?

And by the way, I just love you GALEX, SPITZER and LOFAR combined image of M106. Naturally! :D

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Sure. But I couldn't even find that zoomable version. There is one at https://esawebb.org/images/potm2407a/, but it is much less detailed than Jac's close-up. Unless it's just Jac's image processing expertise that brings out the individual stars?
Johnny, Jac gave you this link:

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/540 ... 24c5_o.jpg

When I click on that link on my computer, I get a picture of high resolution. I uploaded a part of it to my computer, and this is what it looks like:

Center o M106 JWST zoom in.png

Click to see the full size of it. Note the little black dot right in the center of M106 that Jac must have gotten rid of in his version of this image.

I must say that although I was able to see this resolution om my computer, I was unable to see it on my phone.

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Re: APOD: M106: A Spiral Galaxy with a Strange... (2024 Oct 09)

Post by johnnydeep » Thu Oct 10, 2024 3:40 pm

Ann wrote: Thu Oct 10, 2024 3:33 pm
johnnydeep wrote: Thu Oct 10, 2024 11:06 am
Ann wrote: Thu Oct 10, 2024 3:58 am

Jac (AVAO) creates his own images using data from the great telescopes, don't you, Jac? In this case, you clearly used the "crazy zoom-in" from JWST, cut out a piece of it, reduced it to an appropriate size, added data where a little bit was missing and added color. Isn't that right, Jac?

And by the way, I just love you GALEX, SPITZER and LOFAR combined image of M106. Naturally! :D

viewtopic.php?p=341666#p341651

Ann
Sure. But I couldn't even find that zoomable version. There is one at https://esawebb.org/images/potm2407a/, but it is much less detailed than Jac's close-up. Unless it's just Jac's image processing expertise that brings out the individual stars?
Johnny, Jac gave you this link:

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/540 ... 24c5_o.jpg

When I click on that link on my computer, I get a picture of high resolution. I uploaded a part of it to my computer, and this is what it looks like:


Center o M106 JWST zoom in.png


Click to see the full size of it. Note the little black dot right in the center of M106 that Jac must have gotten rid of in his version of this image.

I must say that although I was able to see this resolution om my computer, I was unable to see it on my phone.

Ann
Yes, I know that's Jac's high res image, but I'm asking how he got it. I thought he was implying that it was part of one of those typical zoomable images that ESA and NASA often provide to enable interactive exploring. I'm still looking for that source. Unless Jac used some other source and just zoomed in to it himself, in which case I'd like to know what that source was.
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