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<<Alexander Waugh (born 1963) is an English eccentric...

Waugh is an advocate of the Oxfordian theory, the belief that Edward de Vere, 17th Earl of Oxford wrote the works of William Shakespeare. He claims to have found surreptitious allusions embedded in 16th- and 17th-century works revealing that the name "William Shakespeare" was a pseudonym used by Oxford to write the Shakespeare oeuvre.>>

Baloney Detection
Michael Shermer November 2001

To detect baloney — that is, to help discriminate between science and pseudoscience — I suggest 10 questions to ask when encountering any claim.

3. Have the claims been verified by another source?
...
5. Has anyone gone out of the way to disprove the claim, or has only supportive evidence been sought?

Alexander Waugh's primary claim has the advantage that it can be scientifically tested:

• Waugh claims that Edward de Vere's remains lie buried under Shakespeare's 1740 statue in Poet's Corner.

Alexander Waugh's secondary claim supports what Baconians have been saying for 160 years :

• That the Stratfordian man has been a Masonic conspiracy for 400+ years.

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Most of the analysis that I have done for the last 20 years also strongly favors
a Masonic conspiracy for 400+ years; including the fact that the 1623 First Folio was dedicated to
GRAND MASTER WILLIAM HERBERT the Earl of Pembroke (and his brother Phillip):

• "Moore C W The Freemasons Monthly Magazine Vol IV 1845"

GRAND MASTERS, OR PATRONS, OF THE FREE AND ACCEPTED MASONS IN ENGLAND,
from the coming in of the Saxons to the year 1839, Compiled and
condensed from the most authoritative records, by Br. Thomas Joseph
Tennison, President of the Masonic Council of Armagh, Ireland.
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1607: James I., a Brother Mason, Grand Patron by Prerogative, appointed
Inigo Jones, Grand Master of all England, in which capacity he served
for 11 years. His Wardens were Master WILLIAM HERBERT the Earl of Pembroke,
& *NICHOLAS STONE*, Esq., who, attended by many
Brothers attired in Craft clothing, walked to White Hall, and laid
the first stone of the Banquetting Hall, with knocks, huzzas,
and sound of trumpets, throwing a purse of gold upon the stone
for the operatives to drink “To the King and Craft!"

1618. WILLIAM HERBERT, Earl of Pembroke, was chosen Grand Master.
He appointed Inigo Jones his Deputy.

<<The Stratford bust & monument must have been erected
on the N. wall. The design in its general aspect was one
often adopted by the "tombe-makers "of the period, and
according to Dugdale was executed by a *Fleming* resident
in London since 1567, Garratt Johnson (Gerard JANssen),
who was occasionally a collaborator with *NICHOLAS STONE*, Esq.>>

Note that this non-astronomy thread [i.e., 10 reasons] has 215,248 views (One wonders why.)

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[rstevenson]

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Note that this non-astronomy thread [i.e., 10 reasons] has 215,248 views (One wonders why.)

The fact that so many find the thread interesting and even entertaining does not necessarily equate with acceptance of your views about poor Will.

Rob

[geckzilla]

It's probably got some high rankings through some kind of search engine results somewhere due to its content. People searching for space images probably won't end up at Asterisk, because there are lots of space image websites out there better than Asterisk. People searching for Shakespearean conspiracy theories might just end up at Asterisk because there are relatively few Shakespearean conspiracy theory websites, and Asterisk, strangely, might be one of the better ones.

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Note that this non-astronomy thread [i.e., 10 reasons] has 215,248 views (One wonders why.)

The fact that so many find the thread interesting and even entertaining
does not necessarily equate with acceptance of your views about poor Will.

I'd be pleased as punch with " interesting and even entertaining"
...but I suspect something a little more sinister.

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It's probably got some high rankings through some kind of search engine results somewhere due to its content. People searching for space images probably won't end up at Asterisk, because there are lots of space image websites out there better than Asterisk. People searching for Shakespearean conspiracy theories might just end up at Asterisk because there are relatively few Shakespearean conspiracy theory websites, and Asterisk, strangely, might be one of the better ones.

• Othello : Act I, scene III

OTHELLO: My story being done,

• She gave me for my pains a world of sighs:
  She swore, in faith, twas strange, 'twas passing strange,
  'Twas pitiful, 'twas wondrous pitiful.

[owlice]

Alexander Waugh's primary claim has the advantage that it can be scientifically tested:

• Waugh claims that Edward de Vere's remains lie buried under Shakespeare's 1740 statue in Poet's Corner.

Alexander Waugh's secondary claim supports what Baconians have been saying for 160 years :

• That the Stratfordian man has been a Masonic conspiracy for 400+ years.

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Most of the analysis that I have done for the last 20 years also strongly favors
a Masonic conspiracy for 400+ years; including the fact that the 1623 First Folio was dedicated to
GRAND MASTER WILLIAM HERBERT the Earl of Pembroke (and his brother Phillip)

Right from your previous post: Waugh "claims to have found surreptitious allusions embedded in 16th- and 17th-century works revealing that the name "William Shakespeare" was a pseudonym used by Oxford to write the Shakespeare oeuvre." He can claim whatever he'd like, even a conspiracy theory, but "surreptitious allusions" and a conspiracy theory aren't proof, nor even evidence.

Baloney Detection
Michael Shermer November 2001

To detect baloney — that is, to help discriminate between science and pseudoscience — I suggest 10 questions to ask when encountering any claim.

1. How reliable is the source of the claim?
...
3. Have the claims been verified by another source?
...
5. Has anyone gone out of the way to disprove the claim, or has only supportive evidence been sought?
...
7. Is the claimant employing the accepted rules of reason and tools of research, or have these been abandoned in favor of others that lead to the desired conclusion?
...
10. Do the claimant’s personal beliefs and biases drive the conclusions, or vice versa?
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Do you prefer whole wheat, white, or pumpernickel?

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Do you prefer whole wheat, white, or pumpernickel?

Do you salute The Donald's picture every time you go in to work?
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Yes, Virginia, there has been a 400 year old Masonic conspiracy that
has promoted humanist ideas & literature in order to protect us from
despots and the baser instincts of human beings...and thank God!

And, yes, there is a Deep State inside that Masonic built capital of the free world
to protect us from despots and the baser instincts of human beings...and thank God!

(Hitler hunted down Masons and sent them to concentration camps for good reason.)

[geckzilla]

you guys.

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The best parts of Comey’s book have nothing to do with Trump
By Fareed Zakaria, Washington Post Opinion writer April 19, 2018

<<...One of the oft-repeated criticisms of America is that it has too many lawyers. Maybe, but one of the country’s great strengths is its legal culture. As I’ve written before, Alexis de Tocqueville worried that without a class of patriotic and selfless aristocrats, the United States could fall prey to demagogues and populists. But he took comfort in the fact that, as he put it, American aristocracy can be found “at the bar or on the bench.” Tocqueville saw that lawyers, with their sense of civic duty, created a “form of public accountability that would help preserve the blessings of democracy without allowing its untrammeled vices.” Comey’s memoir reveals that America does indeed have a deep state. It is one of law and lawyers. And we should be deeply grateful for it.>>

[owlice]

Do you salute The Donald's picture every time you go in to work?

Art, I trust that you will apologize ASAP for even thinking something so incredibly asinine.

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Art, this is for you. And for you too, owlice.

4:
The only handwriting that exists
in Shakespeare's own hand is six shaky signatures.

Facsimile of Quiney's signature 'with flourishes' from the accounts of 1622–3.

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Judith Shakespeare's 'pigtail' mark (a cursive 'J' facing down). The given name and surname were added by a law clerk.

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<<Thomas Quiney (baptised 26 February 1589 – c. 1662 or 1663) was the husband of William Shakespeare's daughter Judith Shakespeare, and a vintner and tobacconist in Stratford-upon-Avon. Quiney held several municipal offices in the corporation of Stratford-upon-Avon, the highest being chamberlain in 1621 and 1622, but was also fined for various minor offences.

In 1616, Quiney married Judith Shakespeare. The marriage took place during a season when a special licence was required by the church, and the couple had failed to obtain one, leading to Quiney's brief excommunication. Quiney was also summoned before the Bawdy Court fewer than two months after the wedding to answer charges of "carnal copulation" with a Margaret Wheeler, who died in childbirth. Scholars believe that as a result of these events William Shakespeare altered his will to favour his other daughter, Susanna Hall, and excluded Quiney from his inheritance.

Judith Shakespeare was probably illiterate. In 1611, she witnessed the deed of sale of a house for £131 (equivalent to £24,160 in 2016) to William Mountford, a wheelwright of Stratford, from Elizabeth Quiney, her future mother-in-law, and Elizabeth's eldest son Adrian. Judith signed twice with a mark instead of her name.>>

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Apparently I need to go back and take a proper AP English class.
One which correctly attributes Shakespeare's plays to the Earl of Oxford?

Or go here: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHN7SC ... uIg/videos

[Chris Peterson]

Apparently I need to go back and take a proper AP English class. One which correctly attributes Shakespeare's plays to the Earl of Oxford?

Or do what most of us do. Pay close attention to Art when he talks about climate or atmospheric physics, or when he offers a mathematical analysis of some problem, and practice your eye-rolling when he talks about Shakespeare.

[neufer]

Apparently I need to go back and take a proper AP English class.
One which correctly attributes Shakespeare's plays to the Earl of Oxford?

Or do what most of us do. Pay close attention to Art when he talks about climate or atmospheric physics, or when he offers a mathematical analysis of some problem, and practice your eye-rolling when he talks about Shakespeare.

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<<Eye-rolling has been present in literature since at least the 16th century, according to the Oxford English Dictionary. William Shakespeare periodically would use the gesture in his works to portray lust or passion for another character, as used in his poem The Rape of Lucrece.
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• • A Midsummer Night's Dream > Act V, scene I
  THESEUS: The poet's eye, in fine frenzy rolling,
  • Doth glance from heaven to earth, from earth to heaven;
    And as imagination bodies forth
    The forms of things unknown, the poet's pen
    Turns them to shapes and gives to airy nothing
    A local habitation and a name.
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  • Love's Labour's Lost > Act V, scene II
  BIRON: Full of strange shapes, of habits and of forms,
  • Varying in subjects as the eye doth roll
    To every varied object in his glance:
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  • Sonnet XX
  A woman's gentle heart, but not acquainted
  With shifting change, as is false women's fashion;
  An eye more bright than theirs, less false in rolling,
  Gilding the object whereupon it gazeth;

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In this time period, eye-rolling was used commonly as an expression of desire or flirtation, and it continued to be used this way in literature for centuries. Up until about the 1950s this same meaning was used in music and films, but began translating to the meaning known today. The widespread use of eye-rolling in a negative connotation wasn't present until the 1980s.

There has been much speculation about the fact that eye-rolling is an evolutionary trait of women, which is why it is performed more by females than their male counterparts. Psychologists suggest that it was developed as "a low-risk way to express aggression and disapproval." Women in the past were more motivated to use survival tactics that did not involve physical violence in conflict including cut-eye, or side-eye, likely related to maternal instincts. The action of looking away in rejection or disapproval has been traced to many different cultures, who use eye-rolling for similar purposes, suggesting that it is a somewhat innate reaction to unpleasant stimuli.>>

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Hey! A lot of funny comments here actually. I wonder how many new stories about Shakespeare appear every year.

• Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade (1989)

Professor Indiana Jones: [Lecturing in class] Archeology is the search for fact, not truth. If it's truth you're interested in, Dr. Tyree's Philosophy class is right down the hall. So forget any ideas you've got about lost cities, exotic travel, and digging up the world. We do not follow maps to buried treasure, and "X" never, ever marks the spot. 70% of all archeology is done in the library. Researching. Reading. We cannot afford to take mythology at face value.

I do my digging online...
mostly using computer equidistant letter sequence searches:
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*125* is the gematric number, being the sum of the English
characters for Sir PHILIP SIDNEI = [(15+8+9+11+9+15)+(18+9+4+13+5+9)]

http://tinyurl.com/pma5gmz
http://tinyurl.com/nsvfzdm

The "intentionally concealed message" in Sonnet *125* is that
Fulke Greville: Recorder of Stratford upon Avon (1606-1628)
And NED DYER (b. October 1543 – d. May 1607)
*both* "bore the canopy" {For}{SIDNEI}: http://tinyurl.com/ptpxsdu
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. Shake-Speare Sonnet *125*

. WEr't ought to me I bore the canopy,
. With my extern the outward honoring,
. Or layd great bases {For} eternity,
. Which proues more {S}hort then wast or ruining?
. Haue {I} not seene dwellers on forme an{D} fauor
. Lose all,and more by payi{N}g too much rent
. For compound sw{E}et;Forgoing simple sauor,
. Pitt{I}full thriuors in their gazing spent.
. Noe,let me be obsequious in thy heart,
. And take thou my oblacion,poore but free,
. Which is not mixt with seconds,knows no art,
. But mutuall render onely me for thee.
. Hence,thou subbornd Informer, a trew soule
. When most impeacht,stands least in thy controule.
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. <= *26* =>
.
. {F o r} e t e r n i t y,W h i c h p r o u e s m o r e
. {S} h o r t t h e n w a s t o r r u i n i n g?H a u e
. {I} n o t s e e n e d w e l l e r s o n f o r m e a n
. {D} f a u o r L o s e a l l,a n d m o r e b y p a y i
. {N} g t o o m u c h r e n t F o r c o m p o u n d s w
. {E} e t;F o r g o i n g s i m p l e s a u o r,P i t t
. {I} f u l l t h r i u o r s i n t h e i r g a z i n g

{For}{SIDNEI} ELS skip: *26*
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Shortest {For}{SIDNEI} ELS skip in KJV : 869
Shortest {For}{SIDNEI} ELS skip in Moby Dick : 2818
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. Shake-Speare Sonnet 47
.
. BEtwixt mine eye and heart a league is tooke,
. And each doth good turnes now vnto the other,
. When that mine eye is famisht {For} a looke,
. Or heart in loue with {S}ighes himselfe doth smother;
. W{I}th my loues picture then my eye {D}oth feast,
. And to the painted ba{N}quet bids my heart:
. An other tim{E} mine eye is my hearts guest,
. And {I}n his thoughts of loue doth share a part.
. So either by thy picture or my loue,
. Thy seife away,are present still with me,
. For thou nor farther then my thoughts canst moue,
. And I am still with them,and they with thee.
. Or if they sleepe, thy picture in my sight
. Awakes my heart,to hearts and eyes delight.
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. <= *26* =>
.
. {F o r} a l o o k e,O r h e a r t i n l o u e w i t h
. {S} i g h e s h i m s e l f e d o t h s m o t h e r;W
. {I} t h m y l o u e s p i c t u r e t h e n m y e y e
. {D} o t h f e a s t,A n d t o t h e p a i n t e d b a
. {N} q u e t b i d s m y h e a r t:A n o t h e r t i m
. {E} m i n e e y e i s m y h e a r t s g u e s t,A n d
. {I} n h i s t h o u g h t s
.
{For}{SIDNEI} ELS skip: *26*
.
Prob. of 2{For}{SIDNEI}s same skip ~ 1 in 34,000,000
Prob. of 2nd {For}{SIDNEI}s skip *26* ~ 1 in 150,000
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