In the lower photo these clouds appear to be close to mammatus clouds, right? But, probably not? A typhoon had just passed by and the effects were still lingering, so of course there were and still are strong winds happening in both of these photos.
I used the upper photo in a mouseover image on my latest home page at http://danwiz.com.
![Image](http://danwiz.com/DVDTalkImages/ChokaiClouds_resize.jpg)