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A Mystery Star Wrapped in a Stingray

Post by MargaritaMc » Sun Mar 30, 2014 9:25 pm

I just find this fascinating, so thought others here might also be interested.
The astrobite for March 24, 2014
A Mystery Star Wrapped in a Stingray
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In general, stars and other astrophysical phenomena evolve on time scales that dwarf human experience. So a star that changes over the span of mere decades is really something to watch. SAO 244567 has undergone large temperature fluctuations and mass loss rate changes in only ~20 years of detailed observations, and is challenging astronomers to pin down exactly what kind of star it is.

SAO 244567 is nestled in the heart of the Stingray Nebula, a tiny planetary nebula. Planetary nebulae are formed when an intermediate mass (roughly 0.6–10 solar masses) star enters the last stages of stellar evolution.
The subject of the astrobite is the arXiv paper (accepted for publication in A & A)
The rapid evolution of the exciting star of the Stingray Nebula
N. Reindl, T. Rauch, M. Parthasarathy et al

Here are some excerpts from the abstract:

SAO244567, the exciting star of the Stingray nebula, is rapidly evolving. Previous analyses suggested that it has heated up from an effective temperature of about 21kK in 1971 to over 50kK in the 1990s. ... We find that the central star has steadily increased its effective temperature from 38kK in 1988 to a peak value of 60kK in 2002. During the same time, the star was contracting, as concluded from an increase in surface gravity from log g = 4.8 to 6.0 and a drop in luminosity.
... Since around 2002, the star stopped heating and has cooled down again to 55kK by 2006. ... the slow evolution of the respective stellar evolutionary models is in strong contrast to the observed fast evolution and the young planetary nebula with a kinematical age of only about 1000 years.
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Re: A Mystery Star Wrapped in a Stingray

Post by Ann » Sun Mar 30, 2014 11:29 pm

Most fascinating.

I wish that there was another color picture of the star and the nebula. The outer red parts of the nebula in the picture accompanying the article make sense to me. The various shades of grassy green in the rest of the nebula don't, and the pink color of the star is really confusing to me, too.

This sort of color picture is an important reason why I have trouble taking an interest in planetary nebulae. May I ask some of the rest of you, who have no objections to the colors in this color picture, to comment on what the picture means to you? How do you "read" the colors of it?

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Re: A Mystery Star Wrapped in a Stingray

Post by BDanielMayfield » Mon Mar 31, 2014 4:37 am

Isn't green in nebulas mostly (if not completely) due to ionized oxygen? As for the pink star colors, they are unusual Ann, but since both stars have this strange hue I would bet that it's an effect caused both by observing these stars behind the greenish dust and how the image was processed to highlight the nebula.

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Re: A Mystery Star Wrapped in a Stingray

Post by Chris Peterson » Mon Mar 31, 2014 5:13 am

Ann wrote:I wish that there was another color picture of the star and the nebula. The outer red parts of the nebula in the picture accompanying the article make sense to me. The various shades of grassy green in the rest of the nebula don't, and the pink color of the star is really confusing to me, too.

This sort of color picture is an important reason why I have trouble taking an interest in planetary nebulae. May I ask some of the rest of you, who have no objections to the colors in this color picture, to comment on what the picture means to you? How do you "read" the colors of it?
What should the colors mean? As with any scientific image, we need to understand how it was made. This was imaged through three narrowband filters, which were then mapped to the display channels. The red channel was collected at the 658nm [N II] emission line; the green channel was collected at the 502nm [O III] emission line; the blue channel was collected at the 487nm H-beta emission line. Those only approximately match RGB wavelengths, and because they are narrowband we are missing much information- in particular, continuum sources like stars will have almost meaningless colors. In short, this image should not be taken as very close to what might be called "true color". What the colors tell us isn't what it "looks" like, but the distribution of some of the things it's made of.
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Re: A Mystery Star Wrapped in a Stingray

Post by Ann » Mon Mar 31, 2014 5:27 am

Thanks, Chris. The weird colors make more sense now that I know that blue represents Hβ and not OIII, and that green represents OIII and not Ha.

Of course I could have tried to find the original picture and information about the filters that were used, but I thank you for doing it for me.

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Post by geckzilla » Mon Mar 31, 2014 7:47 am

Having gone through enough of Hubble's planetary nebulas and seeing a few in wideband (albeit not R, G, and B) I am under the impression that they are very subtly colored. For instance, this drawing is an artist's attempt to reproduce the ring nebula as he saw it through a telescope. See more. With narrowband filters we can visually dissect a planetary nebula's composition which creates really cool rainbow-colored images. I personally love them. They are incredibly varied and I think it is a great puzzle to try to look at them all and find relationships based on shared structures. No two are alike and even if you sort through all of them you find out that we are looking at a temporally small slice and at all different angles. Maybe they are actually more similar to one another than they look but all the variables mix it up.

The following section of this post turned to a bit of a rant. I don't know if it's understandable to many people. Sorry about that.

It is important to remember that all of Hubble's pictures are both imaged according to the needs of the scientist doing the imaging which means there is no standard set of filters used at all times and that any given Hubble image could later be processed in a few different ways depending on how many and which filters were available and how person doing the processing feels about them. Any given image even of some very regular things like galaxies are subject to variations so it's not really any different for them than it is for PNe. Here is NGC 6302. Hubble captured it in six separate narrowband filters. It's nuts to try to convey all the nuances of each filter into a single image. With that many filters it is possible to make some rough sense of the star colors, though. For some images I think it actually takes quite a bit of analysis of raw data to truly come to an understanding of what you are looking at. You can read all you want about any individual picture and come to some vague understanding by knowing which filters were used but without looking at the data itself your comprehension will remain casual and superficial.

Earlier when I mentioned the "feeling" thing I was serious. There may be three filters represented in an image but two of them were especially grainy or of poor quality so the nicer looking one ends up getting more representation than the others. This doesn't happen too often but sometimes things get rather contrived just so that an image of higher quality may be produced.

The other day I was looking at Hubble Heritage's image of the Cone Nebula and after studying it I realized both the infrared and the H-alpha were crammed into the red channel and the infrared was also being represented a bit by green and blue as well! And then there was a noisy broadband blue filter having very little effect on the picture because it was so grainy. That's an odd filter set and I understand why this was done because H-alpha is red, infrared isn't even a color, and it did look good. Still, I threw it all out the window and did it my own way and I feel like I can see so much more of the nebula with my processing. The colors do not make any sense if all you are interested in is a "realistic" view of the nebula. One of my pet peeves is when I see a comment like, "But does it really look like this?" Oh, gosh, I could probably write an entire essay about why yes, it really does look like that, but your bias is preventing you from both understanding the image and appreciating it!
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Re: A Mystery Star Wrapped in a Stingray

Post by MargaritaMc » Mon Mar 31, 2014 10:13 am

Geckzilla wrote
Oh, gosh, I could probably write an entire essay about why yes, it really does look like that, but your bias is preventing you from both understanding the image and appreciating it!

If ever you do write that essay, I'd really like to read it! I find the whole area of the mapping of wavelengths to colours in the visible section extremely interesting but have no hands on experience. I thought that your image of the Cone Nebula gives much more info that the one of the Hubble site, AND was more aesthetically pleasing.

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Re: A Mystery Star Wrapped in a Stingray

Post by MargaritaMc » Mon Mar 31, 2014 10:20 am

Chris Peterson wrote:What the colors tell us isn't what it "looks" like, but the distribution of some of the things it's made of.
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Where is that image file from, Chris? It's very interesting and I don't know where to look for it on the Hubble site. It isn't here
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Re: A Mystery Star Wrapped in a Stingray

Post by Chris Peterson » Mon Mar 31, 2014 1:52 pm

MargaritaMc wrote:Where is that image file from, Chris? It's very interesting and I don't know where to look for it on the Hubble site. It isn't here
I found the imaging details here. Then I just manually separated the RGB channels into three separate images.
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Re: A Mystery Star Wrapped in a Stingray

Post by MargaritaMc » Mon Mar 31, 2014 2:43 pm

Chris Peterson wrote:
MargaritaMc wrote:Where is that image file from, Chris? It's very interesting and I don't know where to look for it on the Hubble site. It isn't here
I found the imaging details here. Then I just manually separated the RGB channels into three separate images.
Ah. Yes. Shuffles feet. I won't ask you how you "just" did that, because I have not the slightest possibility of being able "just" to do the same thing...
But thank you for the info.
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Re: A Mystery Star Wrapped in a Stingray

Post by Chris Peterson » Mon Mar 31, 2014 2:49 pm

MargaritaMc wrote:
Chris Peterson wrote:
MargaritaMc wrote:Where is that image file from, Chris? It's very interesting and I don't know where to look for it on the Hubble site. It isn't here
I found the imaging details here. Then I just manually separated the RGB channels into three separate images.
Ah. Yes. Shuffles feet. I won't ask you how you "just" did that, because I have not the slightest possibility of being able "just" to do the same thing...
But thank you for the info.
I think you could learn to do it very easily. I use Photoshop, but almost any decent image processing software (such as the free GIMP) will allow you you separate out the red, green, and blue channels. If you can't do this, it's only because you don't have the right programs on your computer, not because you should have any fundamental difficulties.
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Re: A Mystery Star Wrapped in a Stingray

Post by MargaritaMc » Mon Mar 31, 2014 3:27 pm

Chris Peterson wrote: I think you could learn to do it very easily. I use Photoshop, but almost any decent image processing software (such as the free GIMP) will allow you you separate out the red, green, and blue channels. If you can't do this, it's only because you don't have the right programs on your computer, not because you should have any fundamental difficulties.
Thank you. Yes, I think you are right. It is simply an hitherto totally unknown area. Since writing my post above I've discovered and read a helpful article by Richard Crisp http://narrowbandimaging.com/tricolor_e ... p_page.htm and that's started to orientate me a bit. So now I've got yet another project lined up to learn!
But it will have to wait my being able to use my PC routinely - currently I'm only able to use the Tablet because of the back being a nuisance and keeping me in bed. However, the tablet is a marvel - I'm even able use it to view and download lectures from a course offered by Coursera and Caltech (Mike Brown) on the science of the solar system. Wow.

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Re: A Mystery Star Wrapped in a Stingray

Post by MargaritaMc » Sat Apr 26, 2014 8:49 am

Sky and Telescope has written about the paper by Reindl et al mentioned in the OP, focusing on the fascinating star in the centre of the Stingray Nebula
Watch a Star Evolve in “Real Time”
By: Shannon Hall | April 21, 2014


...Stars and galaxies tend to evolve on timescales that dwarf human experience. The Sun, for example, has changed little over the past 4.5 billion years of its existence. But SAO 244567 — a star nestled in the heart of the Stingray Nebula — is a rare exception to the rule.
SAO 244567 has been behaving oddly over the last few decades, increasing rapidly in temperature and losing an incredible amount of mass. Astronomers speculate that not only are we watching this star evolve in real time, but we may be directly seeing its helium shell flash: an explosive phase of nuclear burning signifying the dramatic end of a Sun-like star’s life.
- See more at: Sky and Telescope
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