Room 237 - The Apollo 11 theory

[neufer]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u4A5tJ2j3o

[Chris Peterson]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u4A5tJ2j3o

My question is this: if the 2001 special effects were practice for faked Apollo footage, why do the 2001 scenes actually look better than the NASA imagery?

Kooks!

[geckzilla]

My brain melted and slid out my ears right about the time he presented his ROOM № = MOON ROOM idea. Here's my own theory: Jay Weidner is faking his moon landing conspiracy theory and this documentary about Kubrick using The Shining to tell the world he helped fake the moon landings is actually just Jay Weidner explaining that he is faking a conspiracy theory. He can't actually tell anyone this outright because otherwise the conspiracy theorists will come and kill him.

[Chris Peterson]

My brain melted and slid out my ears right about the time he presented his ROOM № = MOON ROOM idea.

I didn't get that far, because I didn't want to lose those minutes forever. We only get so many; got to be careful how we spend them.

[geckzilla]

Well, it is funny because he explicitly states that the only other word you can spell with the letters ROOMN is MOON but I can certainly rearrange them to a far more fitting word: MORON

Edit: But yes, I do wish I had those minutes back. The joke wasn't worth it.

[Beyond]

Sheeeesh!! The things that sometimes spring up at the Asterisk* whilst one goes for a nap. I wudda thought that by now everyone would have realized that the whole thing is a U.S. government coverup to direct everyone's attention away from something they're hiding. The key to making the moon landings seem real, is that the aliens that work with the government put all the equipment on the moon and ran the moon buggy around to make it look like what the script says man did there. Putting visible evidence on the moon like that and making up a conspiracy story or two to really look stupid in view of the physical evidence on the moon, is really convincing to the vast majority that the moon landings are real.
Geckzilla found the real hidden message that Stanley Kubrick had hidden from the governmental authorities... that IF you believe the official governmental version, then you are a "moron".
This is nothing new, though. The Smothers Brothers also tried to clue everyone in on this with one of their sketch's about less-ons and mor-ons and got into a lot of trouble over it, which eventually lead to CBS firing them.
So if we see any jackbooted thugs dressed in black boarding the good ship Asterisk*, we know that they will be after neufer for posting that video here and starting this revealing thread.

[neufer]

So if we see any jackbooted thugs dressed in black boarding the good ship Asterisk*, we know that they will be after neufer for posting that video here and starting this revealing thread.

All work and no play makes Art a dull boy.

[Beyond]

Does the playful Art have a good fast pair of running shoes

[BMAONE23]

Sheeeesh!! The things that sometimes spring up at the Asterisk* whilst one goes for a nap. I wudda thought that by now everyone would have realized that the whole thing is a U.S. government coverup to direct everyone's attention away from something they're hiding. The key to making the moon landings seem real, is that the aliens that work with the government put all the equipment on the moon and ran the moon buggy around to make it look like what the script says man did there. Putting visible evidence on the moon like that and making up a conspiracy story or two to really look stupid in view of the physical evidence on the moon, is really convincing to the vast majority that the moon landings are real.
Geckzilla found the real hidden message that Stanley Kubrick had hidden from the governmental authorities... that IF you believe the official governmental version, then you are a "moron".
This is nothing new, though. The Smothers Brothers also tried to clue everyone in on this with one of their sketch's about less-ons and mor-ons and got into a lot of trouble over it, which eventually lead to CBS firing them.
So if we see any jackbooted thugs dressed in black boarding the good ship Asterisk*, we know that they will be after neufer for posting that video here and starting this revealing thread.

But how do you know that those things are reeeally there, on the moon? I certainly haven't seen them through a telescope. Only someones pictures from supposed satellites that I haven't seen either. Are we at the point yet where we can look through a terrestrial telescope and directly view the artifacts? Until then conspiracies will unfortunately abound

[geckzilla]

There is absolutely, positively nothing that will stop the conspiracies from coming. It's just how some people are. Even if you could establish a section of conspiracy theorists who accepted that there is evidence that some mission happened at the moon they would still find something to say the government lied about or it was actually a failed mission and secretly the astronauts are all dead or some such..

[Nitpicker]

Firstly, geckzilla, your anagram skills on "ROOM N" have made my day.

But this nut is most peculiar, as he seems to be claiming not that the moon missions didn't happen, but only that the footage of them was faked by Kubrick. It is quite post-modern.

[BDanielMayfield]

Firstly, geckzilla, your anagram skills on "ROOM N" have made my day.

But this nut is most peculiar, as he seems to be claiming not that the moon missions didn't happen, but only that the footage of them was faked by Kubrick. It is quite post-modern.

I too liked geckzilla MORON comment, and I noticed your second point as well Nitpicker. So his reasoning is that, well ok they went, but they couldn't have transmitted live footage?

This is nonsense and an exploitation of those who tend to be closed-minded in their personal distrusts and overly inflated opinion of their own knowledge. They see everyone else as gullible, and since they think they know it all already they refuse to take in anything that might overturn their own thinking.

Even the highly educated can fall into this mental trap. In the late '80s I had a tenured electrical engineering professor who was an Apollo Moon landings denier. He taught from a thirty year old textbook. I made a D in his class, and was proud of it.

Bruce

[Chris Peterson]

Even the highly educated can fall into this mental trap. In the late '80s I had a tenured electrical engineering professor who was an Apollo Moon landings denier. He taught from a thirty year old textbook. I made a D in his class, and was proud of it.

Curiously, there's a significant correlation between engineering and odd religious beliefs (Shroud of Turin, Noah's Ark on a mountain), science denialism (Moon hoax, non-standard cosmologies, climate change denial), and conspiracy theories (Moon hoax again, 9/11 theories).

Not sure why that is, but it's been well documented. Not that most engineers fall for these things, of course, but engineers are overrepresented.

[neufer]

Curiously, there's a significant correlation between engineering and odd religious beliefs (Shroud of Turin, Noah's Ark on a mountain), science denialism (Moon hoax, non-standard cosmologies, climate change denial), and conspiracy theories (Moon hoax again, 9/11 theories).

Not sure why that is, but it's been well documented. Not that most engineers fall for these things, of course, but engineers are overrepresented.

<<The Ritual of the Calling of an Engineer is a secret ritual, authored by Rudyard Kipling, in which students about to graduate from an engineering program at a university in Canada are permitted to participate. The ritual is administered by a body called The Corporation of the Seven Wardens. As part of the ritual each participant is conferred the IrOne Ring, an item of jewellery originally made of iron but nowadays of stainless steel. The IrOne Ring could be destroyed only by throwing it into the pit of the volcanic Mount Doom where it was originally forged. Unlike other rings, the IrOne Ring was not susceptible to dragon fire. Like some lesser rings forged by the Elves as "essays in the craft" – but unlike the other Rings of Power – the IrOne Ring bore no gem. When placed in a fire, it displayed a fiery Tengwar inscription in the Black Speech of Mordor:

• IrOne Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them,
  IrOne Ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them.

The lines inscribed on the Ring were pronounced by SauIron when he forged the Ring.>>

[Nitpicker]

Even the highly educated can fall into this mental trap. In the late '80s I had a tenured electrical engineering professor who was an Apollo Moon landings denier. He taught from a thirty year old textbook. I made a D in his class, and was proud of it.

Curiously, there's a significant correlation between engineering and odd religious beliefs (Shroud of Turin, Noah's Ark on a mountain), science denialism (Moon hoax, non-standard cosmologies, climate change denial), and conspiracy theories (Moon hoax again, 9/11 theories).

Not sure why that is, but it's been well documented. Not that most engineers fall for these things, of course, but engineers are overrepresented.

My tarot reader says the same thing.

[geckzilla]

At some point grades stop measuring how well a student understands a subject and instead reflect how well the student gets along with the teacher... kind of silly but I've nearly failed a couple of classes after becoming distraught and rebellious against the instructor. One of these classes was Advanced Photoshop. Yes, I nearly failed it with a score of -17 on the final project which was mercifully bottomed out to a flat 0. I'm not sure how many more points my average could have taken if a negative score was allowed.

[neufer]

237,000 miles seemed a little low for the average distance to the moon:
The time averaged distance between Earth & Moon centers ~385,000 km = 239.230 miles

However,
the time averaged distance between two co-visible Earth/Moon locations ~381,000 km = 236,740 miles

(Note: 2, 3 and 7 are the only prime factors of 42 :
an important number for Kubrick, Carroll, & Adams.)

"God sent bears to maul 42 of the teenage boys who mocked Elisha for his baldness (2 Kings 2:23)"

The glyph, or character, corresponding to the number 42 in the ASCII character set, is *, the asterisk, commonly known as the wildcard character.

[Ann]

My brain melted and slid out my ears right about the time he presented his ROOM № = MOON ROOM idea.

I didn't get that far, because I didn't want to lose those minutes forever. We only get so many; got to be careful how we spend them.

I watched most of it but had to turn it off before I got to the end.

What beats me is why people think that we haven't made it to the Moon, which is basically sitting in our laps (why do they think the Moon looks larger than anything else except the Sun in our skies?), while at the same time some of them ask why we haven't gone to Mars yet, or they think that aliens have made it here from another solar system, or they ask why we haven't built faster-than-light spaceship yet because they've seen them in sci-fi movies all the time.

Ann

[Beyond]

The world is a very strange place.

[rstevenson]

The world is a very strange place.

I wouldn't say strange (except perhaps for Beyonderland), but it's full of woefully under-educated humanoids.

Rob

[BMAONE23]

237,000 miles seemed a little low for the average distance to the moon:
The time averaged distance between Earth & Moon centers ~385,000 km = 239.230 miles

However,
the time averaged distance between two co-visible Earth/Moon locations ~381,000 km = 236,740 miles

(Note: 2, 3 and 7 are the only prime factors of 42 :
an important number for Kubrick, Carroll, & Adams.)

"God sent bears to maul 42 of the teenage boys who mocked Elisha for his baldness (2 Kings 2:23)"

The glyph, or character, corresponding to the number 42 in the ASCII character set, is *, the asterisk, commonly known as the wildcard character.

Wasn't "42" the answer to the meaning of life, the universe and everything?

The glyph, or character, corresponding to the number 42 in the ASCII character set, is *, the asterisk, commonly known as the wildcard character.

I guess this makes us part of the conspiracy???

[Beyond]

I guess this makes us part of the conspiracy???

Everything is part of the conspiracy, one way or another. Some where in the Asterisk* are posts about experiments with photons that behave differently when someone is watching them.
This shows that they (photons) are watching us. Either that, or they have some kind of allergic reaction to humans. Photons have a connection (as far as i know) to everything, either by being emitted from, or being received, or perhaps even both. I remember that in one experiment, all the photons reacted in a way that the researchers could only conclude that all the photons knew what each other was doing. I thought that was rather amazing, to say the least. So, BMAONE23, i would agree with you when you said "I guess this makes us part of the conspiracy", but not exactly on the " " part.

[neufer]

Click to play embedded YouTube video.

[geckzilla]

I see CBS didn't have the sophisticated equipment that NASA did.