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Re: Where am I?

Post by MargaritaMc » Wed Mar 13, 2013 4:25 pm

Yes, I've got the answer to the second picture - but what on Earth (or around Neptune) the first one is doing has me totally puzzled. Visually, it is something about looking outside of a geocentric world-picture, but how that connects to picture two escapes me.
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Re: Where am I?

Post by Ann » Wed Mar 13, 2013 4:44 pm

Well, there is a connection between the first picture and that body that is orbiting Neptune. I guess you won, Margarita, so it's your turn to find a question. But try a bit more to find the connection between my pictures!

Let me put it like this: The connection is between the Neptunian moon and the first picture in itself, not so much between the moon and the ideas that might be represented by the first picture.

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Re: Where am I?

Post by MargaritaMc » Wed Mar 13, 2013 5:04 pm

No, I haven't won unless I can find the connection! That is why I didn't Name That Object. It is more satisfying to have to work out the connections between parts of the clues.
So, I will carry on thinking, and the question is still LEFT OPEN for someone else to answer in full. And so will NOT be posing a new question! This one still has a lot of juice in it.
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Re: Where am I?

Post by Ann » Wed Mar 13, 2013 5:17 pm

Okay, Margarita, but I'm off to bed now! My alarm clock goes off at about 1.30 a.m. tomorrow (no kidding)...

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Re: Where am I?

Post by MargaritaMc » Wed Mar 13, 2013 5:29 pm

Ann wrote:Okay, Margarita, but I'm off to bed now! My alarm clock goes off at about 1.30 a.m. tomorrow (no kidding)...

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How appalling! That's often when we go to bed!

I've got the answer, tho!
Camille Flammarion did the woodcut and also proposed the name TRITON for the newly discovered moon of Neptune.
I take my bows and will pose a new question once I've got my breath back.

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Re: Where am I?

Post by MargaritaMc » Wed Mar 13, 2013 6:01 pm

first_part.jpg
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My brain is overheated from working out Ann's question, so this really is basic!
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Re: Where am I?

Post by Beyond » Wed Mar 13, 2013 6:04 pm

GADZOOKS :!: :!: Even I can tell it's Panstars. Although I forget what it is, and probably spelled it wrong. So when your brain cools down, try it again. Overheated brain questions don't count :!: :!: :lol2:
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Re: Where am I?

Post by MargaritaMc » Wed Mar 13, 2013 6:15 pm

Beyond wrote:GADZOOKS :!: :!: Even I can tell it's Panstars. Although I forget what it is, and probably spelled it wrong. So when your brain cools down, try it again. Overheated brain questions don't count :!: :!: :lol2:
Oh, go on, Beyond - give us a question!
You DID get the answer right, after all...

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Re: Where am I?

Post by Beyond » Wed Mar 13, 2013 6:33 pm

Ya got about a week or so :?: :?: :lol2:
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Re: Where am I?

Post by MargaritaMc » Wed Mar 13, 2013 7:15 pm

Beyond wrote:Ya got about a week or so :?: :?: :lol2:
What a bully you are, Beyond!

Ok. You said you WANTED difficult! :-):

My now cooled down brain sets the following puzzle.

What astronomical object can link together,
-  Samoa
-  the British Conservative Party, and
-  a Victorian English Jesuit priest


And I would like to be have the answer expounded :D 
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Re: Where am I?

Post by Beyond » Wed Mar 13, 2013 8:00 pm

And you called me a bully :!: What a brutal question! Heck, as for me... i couldn't even expound on the question :!: Remind me not to have a conversation with you, unless you've been out in the sun toooo long. :mrgreen: Which by the way, links everything in the solar system. :wink:
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Re: Where am I?

Post by MargaritaMc » Wed Mar 13, 2013 8:22 pm

Beyond wrote:And you called me a bully :!: What a brutal question! Heck, as for me... i couldn't even expound on the question :!: Remind me not to have a conversation with you, unless you've been out in the sun toooo long. :mrgreen: Which by the way, links everything in the solar system. :wink:
Poor Beyond :cry:
If you take it question by question it really isn't appallingly difficult...
Honestly...
And I did give you PanSTARRS...
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Re: Where am I?

Post by Beyond » Wed Mar 13, 2013 9:23 pm

Only if you're familiar with the ingredients. Samoa, i think is an island. The only thing i know about British politics, is that it is more boreing then USA politics, most of the time. An old time Jesuit priest, is, well, an old time Jesuit priest, whatever that means. So seeing as how it is not the sun, then i would guess the third rock from the sun, as it is common to all three, and is, of course, an astronomical object. That's about as close to an answer and expounding that I'm going to get. I just don't think of these things in the way that you guys do.
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Re: Where am I?

Post by MargaritaMc » Wed Mar 13, 2013 9:35 pm

Here are some hints, if you'd like them - googling would probably get the answers - I've put them behind Spoilers just in case there are any others playing this game! :roll: .
Hint one
'Coming of Age in Samoa' was written by this person
Hint Two
Prime Minister during the 1980s
Hint Three
a seriously good poem by Gerard Manley Hopkins, the priest in question, is addressed to *name*
Hint General
It has an eccentric orbit and has a LOT in common with me...
And here are some nice songs that could help - or just be relaxing to listen to:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=AkJVMNmRDTE

http://youtube.com/watch?v=TUz3f0USB_M

Keeping smiling, Beyond!
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Re: Where am I?

Post by Beyond » Wed Mar 13, 2013 10:30 pm

haha, are you kidding :?: (and i don't mean Chris's new goat) That's -work- :!: Spoiler #4, i couldn't disagree with. :mrgreen: The guy singing the song on the 2nd youtube link stinks. The first link goes to basketball stuff. There's nothing to click on to listen to, that i saw. I'd rather watch you guys, that know more about and remember astronomical stuff better, try and figure out what each other is posing.
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Re: Where am I?

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Re: Where am I?

Post by rstevenson » Thu Mar 14, 2013 12:46 am

Ann wrote:I suddenly got it! Delta Cephei!
Ann, could you explain to this slow learner how you got Cephei from a picture of a monarch (I guess) and a picture of three candles?

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Re: Where am I?

Post by Ann » Thu Mar 14, 2013 1:31 am

rstevenson wrote:
Ann wrote:I suddenly got it! Delta Cephei!
Ann, could you explain to this slow learner how you got Cephei from a picture of a monarch (I guess) and a picture of three candles?

Rob
Okay. I actually started with the picture of the king. Where do you find a celestial king? I thought of the three kings in the biblical story, and the three stars in Orion's Belt are sometimes described as the three kings, at least by an older generation here in Sweden. But the picture showed just one king, not three, so Orion's Belt was out. I thought of Jupiter too, but Margarita's first and third picture seemed to have nothing to do with the King of the Planets. Who else was the King of the night sky?

I suddenly got it - constellation Cepheus. Cepheus was a king who appears in the story about Perseus. Cepheus was married to Cassiopeia, and he was the father of Andromeda.

As soon as I realized that Cepheus was part of the answer, the rest just fell into place. The most famous star of Cepheus is Delta Cepheus. Exactly, and Margarita's first picture shows a river delta. And her second picture shows three candles of unequal length. Exactly, because Delta Cephei is a famously variable star, which regularly gets brighter and then fainter again. Stars like Delta Cephei are known as Cepheids, and they are important distance indicators in astronomy.

By the way, Margarita, that was an excellent choice of pictures! Particularly the three candles, I think.

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Re: Where am I?

Post by Moonlady » Thu Mar 14, 2013 2:03 am

Wow Ann, your analysis is amazing, why dont you work for the police as a profiler! :yes:

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Re: Where am I?

Post by Ann » Thu Mar 14, 2013 3:44 am

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Thanks, Moonlady! I guess I have a moderately good chance of knowing the answer if the target is a star, but I'm terrible at moons. I leave them to you! :wink: :D



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Re: Where am I?

Post by MargaritaMc » Thu Mar 14, 2013 8:24 am

Moonlady wrote:I guess it is : Margaret :D

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_(moon)



I like this poetry!

http://www.poemtree.com/poems/SpringAndFall.htm
CONGRATULATIONS! :clap:

Over to you, Moonlady
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Re: Where am I?

Post by MargaritaMc » Thu Mar 14, 2013 8:27 am

Ann wrote:
rstevenson wrote:
Ann wrote:I suddenly got it! Delta Cephei!
Ann, could you explain to this slow learner how you got Cephei from a picture of a monarch (I guess) and a picture of three candles?

Rob
Okay. I actually started with the picture of the king. Where do you find a celestial king? I thought of the three kings in the biblical story, and the three stars in Orion's Belt are sometimes described as the three kings, at least by an older generation here in Sweden. But the picture showed just one king, not three, so Orion's Belt was out. I thought of Jupiter too, but Margarita's first and third picture seemed to have nothing to do with the King of the Planets. Who else was the King of the night sky?

I suddenly got it - constellation Cepheus. Cepheus was a king who appears in the story about Perseus. Cepheus was married to Cassiopeia, and he was the father of Andromeda.

As soon as I realized that Cepheus was part of the answer, the rest just fell into place. The most famous star of Cepheus is Delta Cepheus. Exactly, and Margarita's first picture shows a river delta. And her second picture shows three candles of unequal length. Exactly, because Delta Cephei is a famously variable star, which regularly gets brighter and then fainter again. Stars like Delta Cephei are known as Cepheids, and they are important distance indicators in astronomy.

By the way, Margarita, that was an excellent choice of pictures! Particularly the three candles, I think.

Ann
Thanks! And well worked out.
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Re: Where am I?

Post by MargaritaMc » Thu Mar 14, 2013 8:42 am

For extra points (If we were awarding them!)

Can anyone work out the other parts of the 'chain' which is linked together by Margaret?
(http://asterisk.apod.com/viewtopic.php? ... 50#p195112)

And what did the hint in the YouTube video refer to?
Click to play embedded YouTube video.
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Re: Where am I?

Post by rstevenson » Thu Mar 14, 2013 9:30 am

Ann wrote:I suddenly got it - constellation Cepheus. Cepheus was a king who appears in the story about Perseus. Cepheus was married to Cassiopeia, and he was the father of Andromeda.
Thanks Ann. I have a only a dim recollection of such details of antique mythology. But that will help me Google next time.

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Re: Where am I?

Post by MargaritaMc » Thu Mar 14, 2013 9:39 am

rstevenson wrote:
Ann wrote:I suddenly got it - constellation Cepheus. Cepheus was a king who appears in the story about Perseus. Cepheus was married to Cassiopeia, and he was the father of Andromeda.
Thanks Ann. I have a only a dim recollection of such details of antique mythology. But that will help me Google next time.

Rob
I have to confess that I only know it via my Collins Gem Guide to The Night Sky...
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