Explanation: What's causing those odd rings in supernova 1987A? Twenty five years ago, in 1987, the brightest supernova in recent history was seen in the Large Magellanic Clouds. At the center of the above picture is an object central to the remains of the violent stellar explosion. Surrounding the center are curious outer rings appearing as a flattened figure 8. Although large telescopes including the Hubble Space Telescope monitor the curious rings every few years, their origin remains a mystery. Pictured above is a Hubble image of the SN1987A remnant taken last year. Speculation into the cause of the rings includes beamed jets emanating from an otherwise hidden neutron star left over from the supernova, and the interaction of the wind from the progenitor star with gas released before the explosion.
Here in APOD I have seen many images of bipolar systems. In this 1 the red rings to my opinion are the edges of a diabolo form. Mesier 27 is another one as the red Square nebula and the Shapley 1 nebula. Astronomer Vincent Icke discovered many of them. The red square is a diabolo seen from the side, Mesier 27 almost from the bottom or top, Shapley1 from bottom or top and this one viewed from an angel. The white dotted ring in this picture looks like a optical problem. Many of the surrounding stars in this image seem to have the same dotted ring around them. So this must be an artefact. Have FUN Greatings from the Netherlands
Great APOD. Just to be clear, the two large bright objects at 1:00 and 7:30, roughly, are the two bright foreground stars mentioned in the "Speculation" link. Right?
The 'wind' link was just ducky! I've never seen ducks roll around before. It's amazing they didn't have a quackup
Oh yeah, the rest of it was good also.
Beyond wrote:The 'wind' link was just ducky! I've never seen ducks roll around before. It's amazing they didn't have a quackup
Oh yeah, the rest of it was good also.
I think the Rings could be from earlier ejected material than from the actual explosion itself....a hiccup, then a blast....and the hiccup gets shoved ahead... Possible???
There also seems to be some "dust" of to the left....
I'm always waiting and hoping for a new supernova that would be closer.
It could be observed and studied much more precisely.
Yet years goes by and still nothing.
alphachapmtl wrote:I'm always waiting and hoping for a new supernova that would be closer.
It could be observed and studied much more precisely.
Yet years goes by and still nothing.
BMAONE23 wrote:Supernovae are visible for thousands of years,This remnant was first visible 1873 years ago and is still visible today
I think it would be more accurate to view a supernova as a transient phenomenon, with a well defined beginning, and a not so well defined end. It might be considered to last a few seconds at the shortest, and a few years at the longest. In any case, what we normally call a "supernova" is typically visible for about a year as a brightened star (brighter than the parent), after which we are mainly observing the remnant- which as you say, dissipates over thousands of years.
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It resembles the shape of the butterfly nebula if only much less dense. Kind of like it would look when looking at it from an end, except the walls of the cones on each end are nearly transparent.
Are we looking at the rings two dimensionally , or is this actually an image of rings that emanated in opposite directions, that is, a three dimensional image of something like vortex rings above and below/ behind and in front of the central supernova remnant?
Not so mysterious. This isn't a figure 8, and the dimmer rings are where cones of ejecta are colliding with gas/dust. Fairly obviously, the system is tilted to the right from this perspective, and the explosion was heavily influenced by the angular momentum of the star or star system that blew up. Analagous to numerous planetary nebulae with this same general form.
userrj wrote:Could it be a double lensing from a bright star beyond?
No. You can see the lensing effect when it is happening and what is being lensed is behind it.
You wouldn't be able to see a lensing effect when a star is behind an object, because there would be no gravational effect on the light that causes lensing to happen. The light from that object would have to pass very close to the star at a certain degree to be lensed. Anyway, I don't think a star would be much for gravitational lensing.
This APOD though is fantastic. We don't get to see a peculiar supernova like this everyday, especially in a neighboring galaxy like the Large Magellanic Cloud.
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Awww, I felt for those cute windswept ducklings and their mum (or could it be dad) that were in the video brought up through the "wind" link. I hope they were OK.
The music in the video brought up through the "stellar explosion" link was though, to me, very annoying.
Could it be possible that the faint '8' rings could be the ejecta from the 'initial' spark just before the main supernova explosion?
It also looks like the two faint rings seem to emanate from the same source at the center - like formed in the form of a double cone with their apex at the origin of th explosion... The top ones recedeing from us while the bottom ones approaching us.
The Mysterious Rings of Supernova 1987A
