geckzilla wrote:That reminds me of an article I read a while back: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/ ... -pond.htmlTNT wrote:
Once this past summer, I was swimming in my pool around dusk when I saw a bat swoop down from the sky and drink the water! I thought that was amazing.
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My Lone Bat Flys Again
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I'm glad I don't have to be airborne to get a drink of water. It's nice to get a drink when you're airborne though.geckzilla wrote:That reminds me of an article I read a while back: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/ ... -pond.htmlTNT wrote:Once this past summer, I was swimming in my pool around dusk when I saw a bat swoop down from the sky and drink the water! I thought that was amazing.
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orin stepanek wrote:
I'm glad I don't have to be airborne to get a drink of water.
- One can even drink water on a...
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It seems that dogs scoop up water with their tongue and catch it in their mouth...neufer wrote:Click to play embedded YouTube video.Click to play embedded YouTube video.
...cats, on the other hand, use their tongue to get milk on it and retract their tongue to collect the milk that got on it...neufer wrote:Click to play embedded YouTube video.
...ligers use their tongue to push the water toward their mouth...neufer wrote:Click to play embedded YouTube video.
...and this dog completely missed its drink, but...neufer wrote:Click to play embedded YouTube video.
...why the x-ray video of this dog drinking water? I can barely see anything at all.neufer wrote:Click to play embedded YouTube video.
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2)-things. (1)-No-one rides old-fashioned trains anymore. (2)-How are you going to be able to get a square shape shadow when the (top) circle part is bigger than the (bottom) squared off part?? One side of the square is going to be bigger than the other side.neufer wrote:orin stepanek wrote:
I'm glad I don't have to be airborne to get a drink of water.
- One can even drink water on a...
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TNT, are you quite sure that you aren't T(o)B(i)TTNT wrote:It seems that dogs scoop up water with their tongue and catch it in their mouth...neufer wrote:Click to play embedded YouTube video.
...why the x-ray video of this dog drinking water? I can barely see anything at all.neufer wrote:Click to play embedded YouTube video.
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One can clearly see that the dog is getting MOST of its water from the suction
onto the front tip of the tongue and NOT from scooping with the back of the tongue.
Large animals like dogs & Ligers need to use a longer tip
of their wider tongues than do smaller animals like cats and bats.
(It is similar to elephants needing fat legs while gazelles can get by with thin legs.)
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Its a good thing that elephants don't go leaping around like gazelles sometimes do, or seismographs would be recording a LOT more than they are now.
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Beyond wrote:
Its a good thing that elephants don't go leaping around like gazelles sometimes do,
or seismographs would be recording a LOT more than they are now.
http://lsned.com/facts/size-matters/ wrote: Galileo Says Size Matters. Elephants and Jell-o Agree.
By Ryan | Published: September 2, 2010
<<In 1638 Galileo Galilei, who is called the Father of Science, published the Square-Cube Law. Frankly, it’s not particularly clever as scientific discoveries go. It’s an observation that big things are bigger than small things. However, the particular way in which objects scale does create a few interesting implications.
I’m going to explain the concept using Jell-o. Alright, so imagine a perfect cube of that fruity lime-flavoured gelatin dessert sitting on a plate. Let’s say the cube is 1 inch in all directions. But, seeing as how there’s always room for Jell-o, you say you want “twice as much”. So, you would be expecting a cube that is two inches tall. Twice as much, right?
Not so! It may be twice as tall, and twice as wide, but the other measurements of size have more than doubled. The surface area has been squared, and the volume has been cubed. (hence Square-Cube Law) So, going by the volume, you actually have eight times more Jell-o in a 2-inch-sized serving as you do in a 1-inch-sized serving. A serving 4 inches across would contain 64 times as much Jell-o!
This exponential growth puts a hard limit on how big your Jell-o serving can get before it overwhelms the structural integrity of gelatin. As the volume increases, so does the weight of all that Jell-o pushing down on the bottom-most layer. (the mass is growing faster than the footprint, so the pressure increases) If you visualize this growing cube on your dinner table, you can picture it begin to bulge and eventually crush itself into a gooey mess.
This same law puts a limit on the size of land animals. It explains why ants can walk around on spindly little legs while lifting 50 times their body weight, compared to elephants with their tree-trunk sized feet who would strain to lift a quarter of their mass.
It also affects more than the size of animals. Elephants are practically naked (compared to most other fuzzy-haired mammals) because they have significantly more inside (volume) relative to their outside (surface area) and have a much harder time cooling down their body temperatures. Maximizing the surface area for cooling also explains the big floppy ears and wrinkly skin, which can expel more heat than a smooth surface.
It also explains why the Nazis failed when trying to build a massive tank, and why our giant friend Robert Wadlow needed leg braces to walk. Oh, and why an elephant might die if it could only jump, while a mouse could safely fall off a building. And lastly, if not to beat a dead horse, it explains why Goliath probably wasn’t ten feet tall.>>
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What about Dumbo when he's landing?Beyond wrote: Its a good thing that elephants don't go leaping around like gazelles sometimes do, or seismographs would be recording a LOT more than they are now.
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Orin, cartoon critters, no matter what size, are digital beings. If they had the same mass/weight as biological critters, the internet would have crashed a l-o-n-g time agoorin stepanek wrote:What about Dumbo when he's landing?Beyond wrote: Its a good thing that elephants don't go leaping around like gazelles sometimes do, or seismographs would be recording a LOT more than they are now.
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OTOH...Beyond wrote:Orin, cartoon critters, no matter what size, are digital beings.orin stepanek wrote:What about Dumbo when he's landing?Beyond wrote:
Its a good thing that elephants don't go leaping around like gazelles sometimes do,
or seismographs would be recording a LOT more than they are now.
If they had the same mass/weight as biological critters, the internet would have crashed a l-o-n-g time ago
As a 2 dimensional creature, Dumbo should be subject to Galileo Galilei's even more restrictive Line-Square Law.
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Maybe he wasn't, but he could have been stretching 9'-11'' or greater. I was just listening to a show yesterday that described Goliath's chain-mail body armour as weighing 150lbs, and the head of his 13-15 foot spear as weighing 18lbs. Not to mention any other gear that he might be wearing. So if you can find someone comfortable in carrying at least an extra 150lbs, and capable of handling a 3-inch thick, 13-15 foot-long spear with an 18lb head on it, then that's probably how big Goliath was. We'll leave off the sixth finger on his hands. Six finger hands aren't too common now-a-days. Although theres a post around here some where with a guy with six fingered hands and feet that climbs palms and gathers coconuts for a living.neufer wrote:,it explains why Goliath probably wasn't ten feet tall.>>
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Hey beyond; maybe elephants can jump!
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This is getting to be quite a thread. From bats to elephants and giants. I wonder what's next. Maybe a Whale-of-a-good-time
Orin, your digital pachyderm isn't too bad either. ::trumpeting icon inserted here::
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Yep, I'm sure.neufer wrote:TNT, are you quite sure that you aren't T(o)B(i)T
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Some birds are also.Ann wrote: Cats are so elegant!
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Beyond wrote:Some birds are also.Ann wrote:
Cats are so elegant!
- Thanks for posting a picture of yourself, Beyond.
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I'll bet that Einstein didn't get to view the inner workings.
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I was sitting here trying to think up a reply to what you said, neufer, but it's been a while now and i just can't think of anything, so i might as well leave....flap flap flap flap flap .neufer wrote:Thanks for posting a picture of yourself, Beyond.
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