APOD: Earth Rotating Under VLT (2011 Jun 01)

[davidruben]

The video is described as "been digitally rotated so that it is the stars that stay (approximately) steady, and the Earth that moves beneath them". The digital alteration seems though misconcieved. What we seem to be shown is the ground rotating around a horizon point with the backdrop of stars staying still. Hence (where a dot is distant star) _. to \. to |. to /. yet if free floating in space the earth would not seem to rotate about this camera on one spot on its surface, but of course rotate about the earth's centre.

So while the description is of "as if the camera were floating free in space", this is anything but - that camera in space whilst indeed not rotating with respect to the distant stars would not see these views unless traveling in a huge circle, the diameter of the earth, so that its telescoped tangential view of one spot on the earth's surface would not change. If a camera in space was really free floating, i.e. stationary with respect to the star background, then the surface of the earth seen in these clips would rotate out of view at some 1000mph plus! No wonder people have commented about vertigo feeling !

[LinuxGuyInVA]

As of 21:16 US/EDT, youtube says:

This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by nicolas fabian bustos vargas.

Sorry about that.

Anyone know what's up?

[bystander]

As of 21:16 US/EDT, youtube says:

This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by nicolas fabian bustos vargas.

Sorry about that.

Anyone know what's up?

Hmm, that's odd! An earlier version is still up.

Click to play embedded YouTube video.

nicolas fabian bustos vargas (NikoBustos) is the uploader of the original video upon which this video is based.
He is not the copyright holder of any of the footage in the video. I suggest you voice your objections on his video.

[cmflyer]

I was going to show both videos to my students, but not either now that the edit has been redacted. It's very cool and educational and flattering to the original. Neener, neener, I guess.

[Craig]

I was saddened to see the video taken down by a copyright dispute. It was my intention to show it to someone unfamiliar with the site; pity that small minds and big egos so often obscure a far larger universe. Thanks for posting the video regardless.

[neufer]

nicolas fabian bustos vargas (NikoBustos) is the uploader of the original video upon which this video is based.
He is not the copyright holder of any of the footage in the video. I suggest you voice your objections on his video.

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[owlice]

I have to wonder about the validity of the complaint, given that the credits on the version vargas uploaded say

ALL IMAGES: (eso.org) taken on location by Stephane Guisard and Jose Francisco Salgado.

ESO/S. Guisard (http://www.eso.org/~sguisard)

ESO/José Francisco Salgado (http://www.josefrancisco.org)

and these two are credited with the video shown on today's APOD. Seems backwards to me, that vargas is claiming rights.

Since ANN and OWL like the music, I withdraw my comment about the bad music. ANN and OWL often are more sagacious that APOD itself.

Thank you! Kind of you to say, but unnecessary; music is an individual thing, as the soundtrack used in the vargas video clearly shows. I found that soundtrack.... ahhh.... let's say "not to my liking" and leave it at that. I did like the music on the APOD video, and in checking out the composer, was amused to find a work called Yak-Sized Piece of Grit That Flew Into My Eye, Causing 15 Seconds of Painful Disorientation. Made me laugh, that!

[Stonefoot]

It would be nice if someone could check on the copyright status of videos before posting them as a "picture of the day" - - unless they did and got blindsided, in which case I'd want to know who did that (to put them on my permanent sh*tlist).

[bubbaraymartin]

What a shame the video was redacted due to some sort of copyright war. So much for mr. vargas's possible large number of views and the satisfaction of having the video become a part of APOD.

[mizaralcor64]

Interesting that the video has been pulled under a copyright claim. First time I've seen that in APOD. Which begs the question, why not remove it and post another one?

[neufer]

Interesting that the video has been pulled under a copyright claim. First time I've seen that in APOD.

Which begs the question, why not remove it and post another one?

Click to play embedded YouTube video.

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[DavidLeodis]

I never saw the video due to it being pulled under the copyright claim. I do though wonder why the 'Astronomy Picture of the Day' is gradually becoming more an 'Astrononomy Video of the Day'. I very much prefer a single astronomy image to having to watch videos that I also sometimes have problems loading. I hope members do not mind me posting my moan as I appreciate from threads over time that videos seem to be popular with others.

Edit added shortly after I posted. I've found that the "here" in the final sentence of the explanation brings up an 8 minutes 10 seconds video titled 'VLT (Very Large Telescope) HD Timelapse Footage'. I wonder how that original video (credited to NikoBustos) compares to what was the APOD video before it was pulled. Thanks for any help.

[mizaralcor18]

Wow, people really like to waste space on off-the-topic posts on this list. I didn't really need a lecture on begs the question. I doubt if anyone else did either.

[neufer]

Wow, people really like to waste space on off-the-topic posts on this list.
I didn't really need a lecture on begs the question.
I doubt if anyone else did either.

Person 1: mizaralcor18 is annoyed right now.
Person 2: How do you know?
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[DavidLeodis]

I never saw the video due to it being pulled under the copyright claim. I do though wonder why the 'Astronomy Picture of the Day' is gradually becoming more an 'Astrononomy Video of the Day'. I very much prefer a single astronomy image to having to watch videos that I also sometimes have problems loading. I hope members do not mind me posting my moan as I appreciate from threads over time that videos seem to be popular with others.

Edit added shortly after I posted. I've found that the "here" in the final sentence of the explanation brings up an 8 minutes 10 seconds video titled 'VLT (Very Large Telescope) HD Timelapse Footage'. I wonder how that original video (credited to NikoBustos) compares to what was the APOD video before it was pulled. Thanks for any help.

I've just found that the video is now live when clicking on the arrow on the APOD (the other links though still state the video is blocked) so I've been able to see it!

[Pablo Morgan]

Though some at the VLT might be offended, I surely heard the great refrain of The Beatles,
But the fool on the hill,
Sees the sun going down,
And the eyes in his head,
See the world spinning 'round.

Nice job. An inspired way of looking.