APOD: The Mileage of Light (2011 May 28)

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APOD: The Mileage of Light (2011 May 28)

Post by APOD Robot » Sat May 28, 2011 4:06 am

Image The Mileage of Light

Explanation: If you're driving down a dark road on a starry night, you might want to check the odometer. Earlier this month, when traveling astronomer Dennis Mammana did he was greeted with the significant mileage reading of 186,282 miles. That's the number of miles light travels in one second. Or, if you prefer kilometers, the number you are looking for is 299,792. Mammana muses that in driving to countless observatories, star parties, and night sky photo shoots it has taken his 1998 vintage sport utility vehicle over 13 years to cover that distance. Of course, he considers his next important mileage milestone to be the distance to the Moon.

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Re: APOD: The Mileage of Light (2011 May 28)

Post by Beyond » Sat May 28, 2011 4:11 am

That was a nice change of pace. I wonder though, driving at the speed of light - do the bugs shatter the windshield, or just pass on through :?:
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Re: APOD: The Mileage of Light (2011 May 28)

Post by Boomer12k » Sat May 28, 2011 6:11 am

In my 1972, Datsun 240Z, I have driven to the Moon even at Apogee (252,088 miles). I have 267,000 miles on my car. And it is STILL AWESOME!
Now, I just have to drive back!!! :D

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Re: APOD: The Mileage of Light (2011 May 28)

Post by djak. » Sat May 28, 2011 6:39 am

How far to the anthropocene extinction?

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Re: APOD: The Mileage of Light (2011 May 28)

Post by bystander » Sat May 28, 2011 7:44 am

djak. wrote:How far to the anthropocene extinction?
That's a time, not a distance.
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Re: APOD: The Mileage of Light (2011 May 28)

Post by pomodist » Sat May 28, 2011 10:05 am

Wht the hell is that got to do with astronomy, the universe! I want the pics of galaxies, etc. me

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Re: APOD: The Mileage of Light (2011 May 28)

Post by biddie67 » Sat May 28, 2011 10:20 am

A fun, whimsical picture - it's fascinating how the human mind takes note of where certain numbers, significant to them and their interests, do pop up ...

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Re: APOD: The Mileage of Light (2011 May 28)

Post by Case » Sat May 28, 2011 10:39 am

djak. wrote:How far to the anthropocene extinction?
Maybe I'm missing the joke, but AFAIK, 'anthropocene' marks the cause of an extinction, but doesn't specify what gets extinct.
Referring to light extinction in the astronomical sense, I would say the human caused effects are limited to Earth's atmosphere, although most of these atmospheric effects would occur largely the same without any humans involved, when choosing rural clear skies for observing.
Depending on your chosen threshold, consider the ISS in low earth orbit as just about 'above the atmosphere', at about 330 km (205 mi) distance in zenith, and about 2077 km (1291 mi) at the horizon (Pythagoras).
I, for one, like Roman numerals.

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Re: APOD: The Mileage of Light (2011 May 28)

Post by Boris825 » Sat May 28, 2011 10:48 am

Been there, done that, Dennis. I've been logging over 30,000 miles per year for the past 22 years. I'll call you from L2.

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Re: APOD: The Mileage of Light (2011 May 28)

Post by billinger » Sat May 28, 2011 10:55 am

Hmmm... What is before car...? Is it a part of Sagittarius constellation?
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Post by Star*Hopper » Sat May 28, 2011 11:50 am

billinger wrote:Hmmm... What is before car...? Is it a part of Sagittarius constellation?
Before car was horse, Kemo Sabe. Look small, ergo, must be Equuleus.

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Re: APOD: The Mileage of Light (2011 May 28)

Post by Craine » Sat May 28, 2011 12:20 pm

The milage may be right, but I think the speedometer is a bit off.
My father in law has an Astro van with almost 500,000 miles on it. To the moon and back.

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Post by stardog » Sat May 28, 2011 1:13 pm

My business is StarDogs Astronomy and I take an inflatable planetarium & telescope to schools, libraries, & camps in the midwest. This is our 16th year of sharing the universe with students, teachers, campers, and families.I started out with a Ford Ranger pickup and put 20,000 miles on it for the business in three years. Then, in 1998, I acquired a used 1995 Ford Windstar van with 14,000 miles on the odometer at time of purchase. Three-and-a-half years later, it was struck by a deer, and totaled. The odometer read 230,000+ miles, most all of them were driven for presenting the universe. I had to immediately purchase another van to make sure I had transportation to keep our schedule of programs. That was the summer of 2001, and I purchased a 1997 Mercury villager. At time of purchase, it had 64,132 miles on the odometer. I've enclosed a picture of the current odometer reading on the Mercury, and again, most all of this mileage is for business.
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So in total for our business, between the pickup, and the two vans, that's 532,470 miles of sharing the night sky so far. It's been a lot of fun fetching the stars as the StarDog!

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Re: APOD: The Mileage of Light (2011 May 28)

Post by geckzilla » Sat May 28, 2011 1:23 pm

stardog wrote:. . . Three-and-a-half years later, it was struck by a deer, and totaled. . . .
You now have me imagining deer flying around like little missiles just looking for cars to strike.
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Post by Chris Peterson » Sat May 28, 2011 1:46 pm

stardog wrote:Three-and-a-half years later, it was struck by a deer, and totaled.
I expect the deer's opinion about the nature of this encounter was somewhat different...
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Re: APOD: The Mileage of Light (2011 May 28)

Post by orin stepanek » Sat May 28, 2011 1:48 pm

APOD Robot wrote: Earlier this month, when traveling astronomer Dennis Mammana did he was greeted with the significant mileage reading of 186,282 miles. it has taken his 1998 vintage sport utility vehicle over 13 years to cover that distance.
Wow! !3 years to do what light does in 1 second. :mrgreen: Just think what we could do if we could move at the speed on light. :wink: :shock: :mrgreen:
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Post by geckzilla » Sat May 28, 2011 3:13 pm

Yeah, if we could move that fast, just think of how many people would actually get punched in the face "through" the internet. You've always wanted to do it...
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Post by bystander » Sat May 28, 2011 3:25 pm

Nah, just have to get better fire-walls.
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Post by Star*Hopper » Sat May 28, 2011 5:38 pm

geckzilla wrote:
stardog wrote:. . . Three-and-a-half years later, it was struck by a deer, and totaled. . . .
You now have me imagining deer flying around like little missiles just looking for cars to strike.
Chris Peterson wrote:I expect the deer's opinion about the nature of this encounter was somewhat different...
Being a Southern country boy all of, and 'nite-owl' most of, my life, I have literally several dozens of experiences I have witnessed first-hand of the irrational, insanely stupid things deer can, and do, do in the face of an onrushing vehicle. Some of them, quite expensive. And yes, that includes flying thru the air and colliding with vehicles!
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Re: APOD: The Mileage of Light (2011 May 28)

Post by billinger » Sat May 28, 2011 7:56 pm

Chinamen would to say: may it`s Emptiness?
Yes. I know where Pegasus is but "Enigma" in comparison with MLB is nothing.

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Re: APOD: The Mileage of Light (2011 May 28)

Post by Lionfish » Sat May 28, 2011 8:38 pm

Sorry to mention it, but 300,000km in an SUV (usually above 200g/km) is 60+ tonnes of CO2 emitted... around 5 tonnes per year. Maybe avoiding getting to the moon in this vehicle might be a good target!

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Re: APOD: The Mileage of Light (2011 May 28)

Post by whoopdedo » Sat May 28, 2011 9:19 pm

Beyond wrote:That was a nice change of pace. I wonder though, driving at the speed of light - do the bugs shatter the windshield, or just pass on through :?:
I wrote a program for my class showing how the constellations would change if the Earth moved faster ... and faster ... up to the speed of light ... and faster still if that were possible. It was fascinating: once you were past the speed of light, the whole sky was a ball in front of you: the constellations behind you were seen in front of you. I realized why - say you were driving down a road faster than the gnats were flying - those that would have hit your rear window instead hit your front window...

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Post by whoopdedo » Sat May 28, 2011 9:22 pm

biddie67 wrote:A fun, whimsical picture - it's fascinating how the human mind takes note of where certain numbers, significant to them and their interests, do pop up ...
Perhaps we'll get pi in the sky? How many constellations have a star pi Constellation?

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Re: APOD: The Mileage of Light (2011 May 28)

Post by Beyond » Sat May 28, 2011 9:32 pm

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Beyond wrote:That was a nice change of pace. I wonder though, driving at the speed of light - do the bugs shatter the windshield, or just pass on through :?:
I wrote a program for my class showing how the constellations would change if the Earth moved faster ... and faster ... up to the speed of light ... and faster still if that were possible. It was fascinating: once you were past the speed of light, the whole sky was a ball in front of you: the constellations behind you were seen in front of you. I realized why - say you were driving down a road faster than the gnats were flying - those that would have hit your rear window instead hit your front window...
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Re: APOD: The Mileage of Light (2011 May 28)

Post by Chris Peterson » Sat May 28, 2011 9:55 pm

whoopdedo wrote:Perhaps we'll get pi in the sky? How many constellations have a star pi Constellation?
Most, if not all. When Bayer invented the nomenclature system, there were only 60 official constellations (as opposed to the current 88), but the system has been extended, and it seems likely that all the modern constellations have Bayer designations to at least pi (16). And some constellations have more than one pi. Orion has six!
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