APOD: Sunset at the Spiral Jetty (2010 Dec 04)

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Re: APOD: Sunset at the Spiral Jetty (2010 Dec 04)

Post by bystander » Sun Dec 05, 2010 3:14 am

Star*Hopper wrote:Luvly picture. But is it astronomy?
judy wrote:fire the projectionist and roll the film called astronomy as the dictionaries describe it. j
From Happy People Dancing On Planet Earth (APOD 22 Jul 2008):
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... About once a month or so, APOD posts an image that is not strictly related to the classical definition of astronomy or space science. Reasons for this are several, including broadening APOD's reader base. APODs like these, in my opinion, interest people in space, science, and astronomy who might not normally have or follow such interests. In my view, the web appears to stratify people by interests, and many times people in one interest group will not wander into other interest areas. Eclectic APODs like this are therefore an attempt to reach across disciplines.

Additionally, in my view, APOD is also about planet Earth, exploration, and making connections between science and things not classically related to science. In this case, this APOD focussed on humans specifically, who have never been highlighted on APOD before. This also gives APOD a "human" link usable inside of future APODs.

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Re: APOD: Sunset at the Spiral Jetty (2010 Dec 04)

Post by owlice » Sun Dec 05, 2010 3:23 am

APOD posts images of sunsets, sunrises, weird clouds, rainbows, etc. in addition to images of galaxies, nebulae, and planets. Stuff in the sky, or stuff related to stuff in the sky, all strike me as fair game. If we understand our own sky, we have a better chance of understanding another planet's sky.
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Re: APOD: Sunset at the Spiral Jetty (2010 Dec 04)

Post by neufer » Sun Dec 05, 2010 3:53 am

NoelC wrote:
You can see the spiral jetty on Google Maps here:

http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=41.4 ... 7&t=h&z=18
Back away on Google to see the Golden Spike National Historic Site to the north and the Lucin Cutoff train bridge to the south.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Spike wrote: <<The "Golden Spike" (aka "The Last Spike") is the ceremonial final spike driven by Leland Stanford to join the rails of the First Transcontinental Railroad across the United States connecting the Central Pacific and Union Pacific railroads on May 10, 1869 at Promontory Summit, Utah Territory.

Completing the last link in the Transcontinental Railroad with a spike of gold was the brainchild of David Hewes, a San Francisco financier and contractor. The spike had been manufactured earlier that year especially for the event. Two of the sides were engraved with the names of the railroad officers and directors. A special tie of polished California laurel was chosen to complete the line where the spike would be driven. The ceremony was originally to be held on May 8, 1869 (the date actually engraved on the spike; see below), but it was postponed two days because of bad weather and a labor dispute that delayed the arrival of the Union Pacific side of the rail line.

On May 10, in anticipation of the ceremony, Union Pacific No. 119 and Central Pacific No. 60 (better known as the Jupiter) locomotives were drawn up face-to-face on Promontory Summit, separated only by the width of a single tie. It is unknown how many people attended the event, estimates run from as low as 500 to as many as 3,000 government and railroad officials and track workers were present to witness the event.

Contrary to the myth that the Central Pacific's Chinese laborers were specifically excluded from the festivities, A.J. Russell stereoview #539 shows the "Chinese at Laying Last Rail UPRR" (8 Chinese laid the last rail, and three of these men, Ging Cui, Wong Fook, and Lee Shao, lived long enough to also participate in the 50th anniversary parade. At the conclusion of the ceremony, the Chinese participating were honored and cheered by the CPRR officials.)

The golden spike was made of 17.6-karat(73%) copper-alloyed gold, and weighed 14.03 troy ounces (436 g). It was dropped into a pre-drilled hole in the laurel ceremonial last tie, and gently tapped into place with a silver ceremonial spike maul. To drive the final spike, Stanford lifted a silver spike maul and drove the spike into the tie, completing the line. Stanford and Hewes missed the spike, but the single word "done" was nevertheless flashed by telegraph around the country. In the United States, the event has come to be considered one of the first nationwide media events. Immediately afterwards, the golden spike and the laurel tie were removed and replaced with a regular iron spike and normal tie. At exactly 12:47 p.m., the last iron spike was driven, finally completing the line. After the ceremony, the Golden Spike was donated to the Stanford Museum in 1898. The last laurel tie was destroyed in the fires caused by the 1906 San Francisco earthquake.

Although the Promontory event marked the completion of the transcontinental railroad line, it did not actually mark the completion of a seamless coast-to-coast rail network. Because no railroad bridge yet existed over the Missouri River between Council Bluffs, Iowa and Omaha, Nebraska, passengers were required to cross the river by boat until 1872, when a bridge was built across the Missouri River.

In 1904 a new railroad route called the Lucin Cutoff was built by-passing the Promontory location to the south. By going west across the Great Salt Lake from Ogden, Utah to Lucin, Utah, the new railroad line shortened the distance by 43 miles and avoided curves and grades. Main line trains no longer passed over Promontory Summit. In 1942, the old rails over Promontory Summit were salvaged for the war effort; the event was marked by a ceremonial "undriving" of the last iron spike.>>
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Re: APOD: Sunset at the Spiral Jetty (2010 Dec 04)

Post by Beyond » Sun Dec 05, 2010 7:39 pm

OK, i get the railroad connection to the Spiral Jetty--but how is a Giant Cootie connected to anything, except possibly a Giant Head :?: :?:
THIS would seem to be a s-t-r-e-c-h even for Nuefermation :!:
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Re: APOD: Sunset at the Spiral Jetty (2010 Dec 04)

Post by neufer » Sun Dec 05, 2010 8:43 pm

beyond wrote:
OK, i get the railroad connection to the Spiral Jetty--but how is a Giant Cootie
connected to anything, except possibly a Giant Head :?: :?:
The Promontory Point Peninsula is clearly the fossilized remains of a Giant Arsenic Eating Cootie whose mouth part is the Spiral Jetty and whose antennae formed the Lucin Cutoff.
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Re: APOD: Sunset at the Spiral Jetty (2010 Dec 04)

Post by orin stepanek » Sun Dec 05, 2010 10:18 pm

beyond wrote:
Orin, don't stare at the picture when you are typing your thoughts. "but I they are Art"? Your englash is as baad as mine sumtimes is.
Or pehaps it's just the Scottish in you coming out a wee bit? Then it would be - "but aye they are Art." But then, afterall, it IS a very nice picture, no matter how you say it!
I did indeed miss the typo; the "I" should have been edited and naturally the spell check wouldn't have picked it out as I is spelled correctly' :wink: I am Czech; but my wife is half Irish! I did get some wee (Wii) games for my grandchildren for Christmas though :mrgreen:
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Re: APOD: Sunset at the Spiral Jetty (2010 Dec 04)

Post by Beyond » Mon Dec 06, 2010 12:34 am

ORIN, how did you ever get spell check in APOD?? And you're right--spell check only cares about spelling, not how the word is used.
So if WE don't watch it - we can be just like the Hubble mirror and be "PERFECTLY" wrong!
It's just one of those little hazards of life.
So if we find ourselves in such a position--all we can do is say - YEE-HA!! :cowboy: and forget about it :!:
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Re: APOD: Sunset at the Spiral Jetty (2010 Dec 04)

Post by Beyond » Mon Dec 06, 2010 12:42 am

Ok, neufer, i just noticed the "spiral" tounge of the Giant Cootie, so i see that your neufermation is right on. I guess I'll just have to be a little more observant in the future. Neufermation can be hard to grasp at times.
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Re: APOD: Sunset at the Spiral Jetty (2010 Dec 04)

Post by Chris Peterson » Mon Dec 06, 2010 12:46 am

beyond wrote:ORIN, how did you ever get spell check in APOD??
Use a good browser, like Firefox, and the spell checker is built in. It works on any site you submit input to.
And you're right--spell check only cares about spelling, not how the word is used.
Google has a spell checker that figures out if you are using the right word, in context. Very cool. I expect it to show up in various apps before long.
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Re: APOD: Sunset at the Spiral Jetty (2010 Dec 04)

Post by orin stepanek » Mon Dec 06, 2010 2:45 am

Chris Peterson wrote:
beyond wrote:ORIN, how did you ever get spell check in APOD??
Use a good browser, like Firefox, and the spell checker is built in. It works on any site you submit input to.
And you're right--spell check only cares about spelling, not how the word is used.
Google has a spell checker that figures out if you are using the right word, in context. Very cool. I expect it to show up in various apps before long.
I use a google browser; and that is where my spell check is; but I still have to do my own proof reading! :facepalm: Problem is; I don't always catch my boo-boos. :mrgreen:
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Re: APOD: Sunset at the Spiral Jetty (2010 Dec 04)

Post by Chris Peterson » Mon Dec 06, 2010 2:54 am

orin stepanek wrote:I use a google browser; and that is where my spell check is; but I still have to do my own proof reading! :facepalm: Problem is; I don't always catch my boo-boos. :mrgreen:
Yeah, they haven't added their spell check engine to their browser yet. It was part of Google Wave, which is no longer in operation. It could take something like "the naked bare was bear" and tell you that it should be "the naked bear was bare". That's the spell check engine I expect to see in their stuff soon, and in others (like Firefox) as well.
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Re: APOD: Sunset at the Spiral Jetty (2010 Dec 04)

Post by neufer » Mon Dec 06, 2010 3:00 am

Chris Peterson wrote:
orin stepanek wrote:
I use a google browser; and that is where my spell check is; but I still have to do my own proof reading! :facepalm: Problem is; I don't always catch my boo-boos. :mrgreen:
Yeah, they haven't added their spell check engine to their browser yet. It was part of Google Wave, which is no longer in operation. It could take something like "the naked bare was bear" and tell you that it should be "the naked bear was bare".
Let's not get personal here! :evil:

(Note: I always catch my Boo-Boos.)

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Re: APOD: Sunset at the Spiral Jetty (2010 Dec 04)

Post by Beyond » Mon Dec 06, 2010 5:32 pm

OK, art, you're fast enough to catch your Boo-Boos. The question is--what do you do with them after you catch them :?:
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Re: APOD: Sunset at the Spiral Jetty (2010 Dec 04)

Post by Neileboy1939 » Tue Dec 07, 2010 2:57 am

Why does the "Spiral Jetty" and the giant "Popcorn Tree" exist at all? I live within a short drive of both these man made monstrosities and they are a scar on a very beautiful, pristine landscape. No one does it better than mother nature until some "free spirit" self proclaimed artist comes along with the bomb target tree and the oreo circle and leaves permanent acne on an otherwise beautiful setting. Leave it alone please! Isn't the nearby nuclear waste enough pollution to satisfy natures vandals?

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Re: APOD: Sunset at the Spiral Jetty (2010 Dec 04)

Post by owlice » Wed Dec 08, 2010 12:05 pm

beyond wrote:OK, art, you're fast enough to catch your Boo-Boos. The question is--what do you do with them after you catch them :?:
I'm kind of wondering the same thing!
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Re: APOD: Sunset at the Spiral Jetty (2010 Dec 04)

Post by neufer » Wed Dec 08, 2010 1:29 pm

owlice wrote:
beyond wrote:
OK, art, you're fast enough to catch your Boo-Boos. The question is--what do you do with them after you catch them :?:
I'm kind of wondering the same thing!
Catch a falling Boo-Boo an’ put it in your pic-a-nick basket,
Never let it fade away!
Catch a falling Boo-Boo an’ put it in your pic-a-nick basket,
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Re: APOD: Sunset at the Spiral Jetty (2010 Dec 04)

Post by owlice » Wed Dec 08, 2010 1:34 pm

Not quite the poem I was expecting...! :D
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Re: APOD: Sunset at the Spiral Jetty (2010 Dec 04)

Post by Beyond » Fri Dec 10, 2010 4:42 am

Hey Owlice, do you think he is still recovering from>>Neufermation<<?
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Re: APOD: Sunset at the Spiral Jetty (2010 Dec 04)

Post by owlice » Fri Dec 10, 2010 8:52 am

beyond, I don't know; I'm wondering more how big his pic-a-nick basket is. :shock: (And whether I'll ever get Perry Como out of my head.)
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