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Re: How long to journey through the center of the earth?

Post by Beyond » Sun Aug 22, 2010 3:43 am

Chris Peterson wrote:
beyond wrote:... to obtain a brief period of perpetual motion...
There's something very wrong with that concept...
That is very probable. I see that there is something wrong with everything, even my being here.
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Re: How long to journey through the center of the earth?

Post by Chris Peterson » Sun Aug 22, 2010 4:57 am

beyond wrote:
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beyond wrote:... to obtain a brief period of perpetual motion...
There's something very wrong with that concept...
That is very probable. I see that there is something wrong with everything, even my being here.
Why do you say that? Did I say something that offended you? If so, it wasn't deliberate; I just found it amusing to think of something that was perpetual and at the same time occurring only briefly.
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Re: How long to journey through the center of the earth?

Post by Beyond » Sun Aug 22, 2010 2:35 pm

chris peterson wrote: did i say something to offend you?
No. I don't even think that would be possible especially following the rules of the forum. There could have been a period after the initial forming of the Universe where it would have appeared as though the Universe was a perpetual motion machine.......Until Entropy was realized and burst that Bubble. Now perpetual motion only shows up in the thoughts and dreams of men.
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Re: How long to journey through the center of the earth?

Post by orin stepanek » Sun Aug 22, 2010 6:39 pm

beyond wrote:
chris peterson wrote: did i say something to offend you?
No. I don't even think that would be possible especially following the rules of the forum. There could have been a period after the initial forming of the Universe where it would have appeared as though the Universe was a perpetual motion machine.......Until Entropy was realized and burst that Bubble. Now perpetual motion only shows up in the thoughts and dreams of men.
Hi! If you were referring to my statement; I don't recall saying that the universe was a machine. Rather; I said that it seems that it is in perpetual motion. I'm sorry if I misled you. :?
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Re: How long to journey through the center of the earth?

Post by Chris Peterson » Sun Aug 22, 2010 6:50 pm

orin stepanek wrote:Hi! If you were referring to my statement; I don't recall saying that the universe was a machine. Rather; I said that it seems that it is in perpetual motion. I'm sorry if I misled you. :?
Everything is in motion, and always will be. It is the nature of the Universe. But that sort of perpetual motion is entirely different than the usual sense of the phrase, meaning a sort of machine that can do work without requiring an energy source, generate more energy than it consumes, or the like.
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Re: How long to journey through the center of the earth?

Post by neufer » Sun Aug 22, 2010 7:33 pm

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Everything is in motion, and always will be. It is the nature of the Universe.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Freeze wrote:
<<The future of an expanding universe is bleak. If a cosmological constant accelerates the expansion of the universe, the space between clusters of galaxies will grow at an increasing rate. Redshift will have stretched ancient, incoming photons (even gamma rays) to undetectably long wavelengths and low energies. Stars are expected to form normally for 1 × 1012 to 1 × 1014 years, but eventually the supply of gas needed for star formation will be exhausted. Once the last star has exhausted its fuel, stars will cease to shine. The stellar remnants left behind are expected to disappear as their protons decay, leaving behind only black holes which themselves eventually disappear as they emit Hawking radiation., Ultimately, if the universe reaches a state in which the temperature approaches a uniform value, no further work will be possible, resulting in a final heat death of the universe.,>>
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Re: How long to journey through the center of the earth?

Post by Chris Peterson » Sun Aug 22, 2010 7:37 pm

neufer wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Freeze wrote:
<<The future of an expanding universe is bleak. If a cosmological constant accelerates the expansion of the universe, the space between clusters of galaxies will grow at an increasing rate. Redshift will have stretched ancient, incoming photons (even gamma rays) to undetectably long wavelengths and low energies. Stars are expected to form normally for 1 × 1012 to 1 × 1014 years, but eventually the supply of gas needed for star formation will be exhausted. Once the last star has exhausted its fuel, stars will cease to shine. The stellar remnants left behind are expected to disappear as their protons decay, leaving behind only black holes which themselves eventually disappear as they emit Hawking radiation., Ultimately, if the universe reaches a state in which the temperature approaches a uniform value, no further work will be possible, resulting in a final heat death of the universe.,>>
Yeah, but the Big Freeze is approached asymptotically. It will take forever for the Universe to reach absolute zero, so there will always be motion.
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Re: How long to journey through the center of the earth?

Post by Beyond » Sun Aug 22, 2010 8:01 pm

orin stepanek wrote:
beyond wrote:
chris peterson wrote: did i say something to offend you?
No. I don't even think that would be possible especially following the rules of the forum. There could have been a period after the initial forming of the Universe where it would have appeared as though the Universe was a perpetual motion machine.......Until Entropy was realized and burst that Bubble. Now perpetual motion only shows up in the thoughts and dreams of men.
Hi! If you were referring to my statement; I don't recall saying that the universe was a machine. Rather; I said that it seems that it is in perpetual motion. I'm sorry if I misled you. :?
You did not mislead me. My Bad. I was thinking of a very young Universe and misspoke (i think) in replying because of what i was thinking of.
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