APOD: Messier 76 (2010 Jul 23)

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APOD: Messier 76 (2010 Jul 23)

Post by APOD Robot » Fri Jul 23, 2010 4:05 am

Image Messier 76

Explanation: "Nebula at the right foot of Andromeda ... " begins the description for the 76th object in Charles Messier's 18th century Catalog of Nebulae and Star Clusters. In fact, M76 is one of the fainter objects on the Messier list and is also known by the popular name of the "Little Dumbbell Nebula". Like its brighter namesake M27 (the Dumbbell Nebula), M76 is recognized as a planetary nebula - a gaseous shroud cast off by a dying sunlike star. The nebula itself is thought to be shaped more like a donut, while the box-like appearance of its brighter central region is due to our nearly edge-on view. Gas expanding more rapidly away from the donut hole produces the fainter loops of far flung material. The fainter material is emphasized in this composite image, highlighted by showing emission from hydrogen atoms in orange and oxygen atoms in complementary blue hues. The nebula's dying star can be picked out in the sharp false-color image as blue-tinted star near the center of the box-like shape. Distance estimates place M76 about 3 to 5 thousand light-years away, making the nebula over a light-year in diameter.

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Re: APOD: Messier 76 (2010 Jul 23)

Post by neufer » Fri Jul 23, 2010 12:00 pm

APOD Robot wrote:Image Messier 76

Explanation: "Nebula at the right foot of Andromeda ... " begins the description
for the 76th object in Charles Messier's 18th century Catalog of Nebulae and Star Clusters.
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Re: APOD: Messier 76 (2010 Jul 23)

Post by owlice » Fri Jul 23, 2010 12:05 pm

Art, dang it, I'm eating here!!!
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Re: APOD: Messier 76 (2010 Jul 23)

Post by owlice » Fri Jul 23, 2010 12:05 pm

(or was, anyway...)
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Re: APOD: Messier 76 (2010 Jul 23)

Post by neufer » Fri Jul 23, 2010 12:15 pm

owlice wrote:
Art, dang it, I'm eating here!!! (or was, anyway...)
Donuts?
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Re: APOD: Messier 76 (2010 Jul 23)

Post by orin stepanek » Fri Jul 23, 2010 12:43 pm

Distance estimates place M76 about 3 to 5 thousand light-years away, making the nebula over a light-year in diameter.
That's a pretty rangy estimate; meaning that the nebula could be close to 2 light-years across! :? I'm just going by that if it's over a LY at 3000LY distance that at 5000LY it must be closer to two LY across. :shock:
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Re: APOD: Messier 76 (2010 Jul 23)

Post by owlice » Fri Jul 23, 2010 12:45 pm

neufer wrote: Donuts?
Black pudding and eggs with ketchup; clearly a doughnut would have been a better first choice!
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Re: APOD: Messier 76 (2010 Jul 23)

Post by biddie67 » Fri Jul 23, 2010 2:07 pm

This little newbie does struggle at times - it took me a while to realize that the Andromeda Galaxy and the Andromeda constellation were two different things. Is Messier 76 considered to be in our Milky Way galaxy??

Art - I agree with owlice - ugh!!! If the APOD paragraph had listed Messier 76 at the LEFT foot of Andromeda, would you have horizontally flipped your offered picture -or- do you have a left-footed blood-blister picture in your archives????

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Re: APOD: Messier 76 (2010 Jul 23)

Post by neufer » Fri Jul 23, 2010 2:44 pm

biddie67 wrote:
This little newbie does struggle at times - it took me a while to realize that the Andromeda Galaxy and the Andromeda constellation were two different things. Is Messier 76 considered to be in our Milky Way galaxy??
Absolutely! Further than the Andromeda constellation but much closer than the Andromeda Galaxy.
biddie67 wrote:Art - I agree with owlice - ugh!!! If the APOD paragraph had listed Messier 76 at the LEFT foot of Andromeda, would you have horizontally flipped your offered picture -or- do you have a left-footed blood-blister picture in your archives????
I'm far too lazy to bother flipping pictures.

You may well be disgusted (and I'm sorry for that) but I'll bet the next time you see an image of Messier 76 you'll remember just where it lies in the sky....in the constellation Perseus. :wink:
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Re: APOD: Messier 76 (2010 Jul 23)

Post by Ann » Fri Jul 23, 2010 3:17 pm

Another false-color planetary nebula. Personally I can't stand them.

Normally, I really feel that I understand what the color of astronomical objects signifies. In other words, I understand why things are the color they are. But when it comes to planetary nebulae, I'm stumped. Yes, I understand that the central star is usually blue because it is so hot. (But I'm not sure about the very, very hottest and youngest central stars. Are they blue too? Or are they so hot that their visual spectrum is pretty "flat"?)

Gaaahhh. I hate not understanding the color of things. It makes some sort of sense to me that the central star of a planetary nebula should be blue due to its very high temperature. Similarly, the gas closest to the central star should be the hottest and in the highest state of excitation, so therefore the gas closest to the central star should be blue-green due to OIII emission. Further out, the ultraviolet radiation from the tiny burnt-out stellar core should not be enough to make oxygen flouresce, but instead we should see red hydrogen emission. There might be an intermediate stage where blue-green OIII emission and red hydrogen emission mingles to case a yellow glow. The Ring Nebula, M57, is extremely well-behaved as planetary nebulae go:

Image

Thank you, M57, I understand, more or less, what you are all about. (Although I suspect that this Hubble image shows red HII emission as green, leaving only sulphur emission as red, causing the nebula to look a bit too blue, too green and too yellow and not sufficiently red. Still, I think I understand the image as well as the nebula, and we have a clear progression of temperatures from the highest to the lowest as we move away from the hot central star.)

But M76? Is that one well-behaved? No!!!! Take a look at those lobes blowing out from the boxy "bar" of the nebula. Why are those lobes blue???? What business do they have being blue? How can they be more highly excited that structures closer to the central star????

Gahhh!!!! I hate it!

Here is another picture of M76, which may be more true-colored, or at least I think so:

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The lobes are still blue, and I still understand nada. <puke icon>

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Re: APOD: Messier 76 (2010 Jul 23)

Post by owlice » Fri Jul 23, 2010 3:48 pm

Ann, color can show things other than how hot something is. It makes perfect sense that one color should be used for hydrogen, another for oxygen. 'Tis a puzzlement to me that you are so flummoxed by that.
Ann wrote:Why are those lobes blue????
I'll take a wild stab at this and suppose there are a lot of oxygen atoms in those lobes; that that's what this image shows -- the chemical (or physical, I suppose, if one prefers) structure of the nebula. Why you would "hate" that an image can convey such information ... well, you do, but wow. That seems incredibly narrow to me, but to each her own.
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Post by geckzilla » Fri Jul 23, 2010 9:41 pm

I'm just glad that it's possible to visualize a lot of things in space. Color be damned. I was annoyed to discover that you can't just get a really powerful microscope and take pictures of pieces of atoms.
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Re: APOD: Messier 76 (2010 Jul 23)

Post by neufer » Fri Jul 23, 2010 9:58 pm

owlice wrote:
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Ann wrote:Why are those lobes blue????
  • I'll take a wild stab at this and suppose
    there are a lot of oxygen atoms in those lobes;
    that that's what this image shows--
    the chemical (or physical, I suppose,
if one prefers) structure of the nebula.

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Chemical:                         Oxygen
Chemical/Physical:   doubly ionized (by UV radiation from the star)
Physical:            a density from 100 to 10,000 particles per cc
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A typical planetary nebula is roughly one light year across, and consists of extremely rarefied gas, with a density generally from 100 to 10,000 particles per cm3. Young planetary nebulae have the highest densities, sometimes as high as 106 particles per cm3. As nebulae age, their expansion causes their density to decrease. The masses of planetary nebulae range from 0.1 to 1 solar masses. Radiation from the central star heats the gases to temperatures of about 10,000 K. The gas temperature in central regions is usually much higher than at the periphery reaching 16,000–25,000 K. The volume in the vicinity of the central star is often filled with a very hot (coronal) gas having the temperature of about 1,000,000 K. This gas originates from the surface of the central star in the form of the fast stellar wind.

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Subsequent generations of stars which form will then have a higher initial content of heavier elements. Stars which formed very early in the universe and contain small quantities of heavy elements are known as Population II stars, while younger stars with higher heavy element content are known as Population I stars.>>
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Re: APOD: Messier 76 (2010 Jul 23)

Post by owlice » Fri Jul 23, 2010 10:19 pm

:: falls over laughing ::

neufer!!! Oh, that's funny!! Thank you!!

Thanks, too, for the info on nebulas! I need to find a lecture on nebulas that I can listen to in the car; I keep meaning to do that. SO much to learn!
geckzilla wrote:I'm just glad that it's possible to visualize a lot of things in space. Color be damned. I was annoyed to discover that you can't just get a really powerful microscope and take pictures of pieces of atoms.
But you can get pictures of lots of other cool things! One of my favorite pictures of all time was in a textbook I had long ago. It was a greyscale scanning electron microscope image of a single red blood cell. It was elegant and beautiful; I so often wished I'd had a glossy copy of that image to frame! (RBCs are amazingly elegant to me, though I very much prefer they stay where they belong and don't spill out all over the place.) I will not put the image tags around it since there has been enough blood spilled, or at least blistered, on this thread already, but there is a nice color image of RBCs here: http://amadeo.blog.com/repository/84086/3980423.jpg
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Re: APOD: Messier 76 (2010 Jul 23)

Post by moonstruck » Sat Jul 24, 2010 4:04 am

Wow! Owlice is that actual microscopic RBC's or some artist's depiction? I didn't know we had that in us :|

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Re: APOD: Messier 76 (2010 Jul 23)

Post by Ann » Sat Jul 24, 2010 8:54 am

Owlice wrote:
I'll take a wild stab at this and suppose there are a lot of oxygen atoms in those lobes; that that's what this image shows -- the chemical (or physical, I suppose, if one prefers) structure of the nebula.
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owlice wrote:
Image
  • I'll take a wild stab at this and suppose
    there are a lot of oxygen atoms in those lobes;
    that that's what this image shows--
    the chemical (or physical, I suppose,
if one prefers) structure of the nebula.
How did you do that, neufer? Amazing!!!!!

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Re: APOD: Messier 76 (2010 Jul 23)

Post by owlice » Sat Jul 24, 2010 11:22 am

moonstruck wrote:Wow! Owlice is that actual microscopic RBC's or some artist's depiction? I didn't know we had that in us :|
You have them in you, lots and lots and lots of them; about a quarter of the cells in your body are red blood cells. And you make lots of them (read: millions) every second, and your body culls lots of old cells out (read: millions) every second, recycling parts for building new cells. And when you need to, because you've been injured or are visiting the Alps or Andes, your body can ramp up production by, IIRC, a factor of 10. Makes me tired just thinking about it!! <g>
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Re: APOD: Messier 76 (2010 Jul 23)

Post by neufer » Sat Jul 24, 2010 12:36 pm

owlice wrote:
moonstruck wrote:Wow! Owlice is that actual microscopic RBC's or some artist's depiction? I didn't know we had that in us :|
You have them in you, lots and lots and lots of them; about a quarter of the cells in your body are red blood cells. And you make lots of them (read: millions) every second, and your body culls lots of old cells out (read: millions) every second, recycling parts for building new cells.
Dang it, Owlice, I'm eating Cheerios here!!! (or was, anyway...)
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Re: APOD: Messier 76 (2010 Jul 23)

Post by owlice » Sat Jul 24, 2010 1:36 pm

neufer wrote: Dang it, Owlice, I'm eating Cheerios here!!! (or was, anyway...)
With strawberries or raspberries, perchance?
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Re: APOD: Messier 76 (2010 Jul 23)

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neufer wrote: Dang it, Owlice, I'm eating Cheerios here!!! (or was, anyway...)
With strawberries or raspberries, perchance?
Definitely with lots of raspberries!
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Re: APOD: Messier 76 (2010 Jul 23)

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neufer wrote: Definitely with lots of raspberries!
Man. I set myself up for that, I did, I did indeed!
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Re: APOD: Messier 76 (2010 Jul 23)

Post by Guest » Sat Jul 24, 2010 7:53 pm

:P Raspberries :P are not always red :P or black :P

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Guest wrote::P Raspberries :P are not always red :P or black :P
Somehow a thundershower around here got me signed out and i didn't realize it until i posted, so i show up as a guest. Now, as you can tell, i am signed in again. Looks like the thundershower gave me a bowl of raspberries--no cheerios--just raspberries :!: If you do not have enough, owlice, i can share :D
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beyond wrote:
:P Raspberries :P are not always red :P or black :P

... Looks like the thundershower gave me a bowl of raspberries--no cheerios
--just raspberries :!: If you do not have enough, owlice, i can share :D
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Re: APOD: Messier 76 (2010 Jul 23)

Post by Beyond » Thu Aug 05, 2010 6:07 pm

To me, The Cat's Eye Nebula just does not look like a cat's eye no matter how i look at it.
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