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by bystander » Mon Feb 08, 2010 11:55 pm
Beer Good for the Bones
Discovery News - 2010 Feb 08
- THE GIST:
- Beer contains a nutrient that can strengthen bone.
- In moderation, beer can contribute to a healthy diet.
- Wine isn't the only alcoholic beverage that does our bodies some good.
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by Orca » Wed Feb 10, 2010 4:40 pm
I only drink beer for medicinal purposes!
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by geckzilla » Thu Feb 11, 2010 4:21 am
This is kind of like putting an almond in the middle of a cookie and saying the cookie now assists your health. If there was a pill that had a very slight effect of increasing bone strength but taxed your liver you wouldn't take it, would you? Beer's for buzzes, not bones! And besides that, just think of the people who get drunk and then break their bones doing stupid things. You could argue the point and say that not enough people drink it in moderation and therefore overall beer is bad for bone health.
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by Orca » Thu Feb 11, 2010 3:47 pm
Geckzilla, I see what you're getting at. But the article did point out the importance of moderation. I think the article is just saying that a few beers here and there can, over time, show some benefits; we know for sure that if you drink too much too often, the negatives will soon outweigh the gains.
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by geckzilla » Thu Feb 11, 2010 10:42 pm
I understand. I just think it's silly and don't care much for studies which dance around topics like this. It also does nothing but give people like my dad (who don't need the extra calories or liver effects of alcohol) to continue to make delusional excuses for continued partaking of something they abused far too much long ago and should cease since they already screwed themselves over and could stop if only they had the fortitude, desire, or motivation ... but, actually, I don't feel that strongly about this. It's just another tiny piece of straw on the human population camel.
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by The Code » Fri Feb 12, 2010 4:59 pm
I Make My own beer and wine. Its a lot less expensive. plus, The quality , No chemicals.
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by Chris Peterson » Fri Feb 12, 2010 5:09 pm
mark swain wrote:I Make My own beer and wine. Its a lot less expensive. plus, The quality , No chemicals.
Hmmm, totally chemical free beer and wine? Sounds kind of boring (not to mention impossible).
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by The Code » Fri Feb 12, 2010 5:30 pm
Chris Peterson wrote:Hmmm, totally chemical free beer and wine? Sounds kind of boring (not to mention impossible).
Preservatives, etc etc. ( Chris.) Grapes, water, suger, yeast, /// Hops, malt, suger, water, yeast. 1 week. A warm place.
No complications.
Talk about the first chance you get. lol.
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by bystander » Fri Feb 12, 2010 7:21 pm
Chris Peterson wrote:Hmmm, totally chemical free beer and wine? Sounds kind of boring (not to mention impossible).
![Laughing :lol:](./images/smilies/icon_lol.gif)
Yeah, in the US we call it distilled water, but even then there is a lot of
dihydrogen monoxide present.
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by Chris Peterson » Fri Feb 12, 2010 7:28 pm
bystander wrote:Chris Peterson wrote:Hmmm, totally chemical free beer and wine? Sounds kind of boring (not to mention impossible).
:lol: Yeah, in the US we call it distilled water, but even then there is a lot of
dihydrogen monoxide present.
Exactly. It puts me in mind of organic food. Ever had an inorganic carrot? Man, those things are rough on your digestive system!
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by neufer » Fri Feb 12, 2010 10:51 pm
http://www.theheart.org/article/1047313.do wrote:
Chocolate linked to lower stroke and stroke mortality risk
February 12, 2010 | Susan Jeffrey
Hamilton, ON - <<Good news for Valentine's retailers the world over: a new systematic review from Canadian researchers suggests higher chocolate consumption may be associated with a lower risk for incident stroke and stroke-related mortality. Previous studies, most of them epidemiological, have shown varying effects of chocolate consumption on the risk for cardiovascular disease, but "less is known about the risk of stroke in association with flavonoid intake," the researchers write. Results of two prospective cohort studies showed, respectively, a 22% reduction in stroke risk for those who had one serving of chocolate per week and a 46% reduction in stroke mortality from weekly consumption of flavonoids in 50 g of chocolate vs no consumption. A third study showed no association between chocolate intake and stroke or death.>>
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by orin stepanek » Sat Mar 20, 2010 4:42 pm
bystander wrote:Chris Peterson wrote:Hmmm, totally chemical free beer and wine? Sounds kind of boring (not to mention impossible).
![Laughing :lol:](./images/smilies/icon_lol.gif)
Yeah, in the US we call it distilled water, but even then there is a lot of
dihydrogen monoxide present.
I've seen ads about filtered tap water being better for you than bottled water. I never did get into the bottled water habit.
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by owlice » Sat Mar 20, 2010 5:03 pm
one serving of chocolate per week
Per
week?!?! How limiting!!!
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by BMAONE23 » Sat Mar 20, 2010 6:09 pm
owlice wrote:one serving of chocolate per week
Per
week?!?! How limiting!!!
But I thought that the Surgeon General had determined that a serving of chocolate should contain no less than 10 lbs
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by owlice » Sat Mar 20, 2010 10:53 pm
Ah! Well, then, at one serving/week, that sounds about right!
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by wonderboy » Tue Mar 23, 2010 12:31 pm
geckzilla wrote:This is kind of like putting an almond in the middle of a cookie and saying the cookie now assists your health. If there was a pill that had a very slight effect of increasing bone strength but taxed your liver you wouldn't take it, would you? Beer's for buzzes, not bones! And besides that, just think of the people who get drunk and then break their bones doing stupid things. You could argue the point and say that not enough people drink it in moderation and therefore overall beer is bad for bone health.
Hahahah, this is a quality answer. It made me laugh because its right. More people probably do fall over and break their bones when drunk on beer, therfore your post is rubbished. Either way, I'm still gonna drink beer!
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by wonderboy » Tue Mar 23, 2010 12:32 pm
I don't smoke.......... what are apples?
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