Now there's an interesting shot! (2009 Nov 1)

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Now there's an interesting shot! (2009 Nov 1)

Post by Star*Hopper » Sun Nov 01, 2009 8:35 am

http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap091101.html
I'm trying to remember when I've seen one moreso.
But I'm drawing a blank.

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Re: Now there's an interesting shot!

Post by Andy Wade » Sun Nov 01, 2009 1:04 pm

If the average colour in the universe is beige, then why does it look mostly black?

rhetorical question... :D
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Re: Now there's an interesting shot!

Post by neufer » Sun Nov 01, 2009 2:34 pm

Star*Hopper wrote:
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap091101.html

I'm trying to remember when I've seen one moreso.
But I'm drawing a blank. ~*
It's just another Wampa chasing Tauntauns during a blizzard on the sixth planet of the Hoth system.

(Be sure to mouse tap on the picture for full resolution.)
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Re: Now there's an interesting shot! (2009 Nov 1)

Post by DonAVP » Mon Nov 02, 2009 2:14 am

This is the most boring picture I have seen on the site :roll: . At first I thought that the picture was taking way to long to load. And oh! It does not look beige to me it looks white. But that maybe the browsers limited color palette.

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Re: Now there's an interesting shot! (2009 Nov 1)

Post by neufer » Mon Nov 02, 2009 2:34 am

DonAVP wrote:This is the most boring picture I have seen on the site :roll: . At first I thought that the picture was taking way to long to load. And oh! It does not look beige to me it looks white. But that maybe the browsers limited color palette.
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beige [French, fine woolen fabric left in its natural color, from Old French bege.]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beige wrote:
<<Beige is a very pale yellowish-cream color. The first recorded use of beige as a color name in English was in 1887. It has recently been used as slang. To say something is beige means being boring or dull.>>
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Re: Now there's an interesting shot!

Post by bystander » Mon Nov 02, 2009 3:07 am

neufer wrote:It's just another Wampa chasing Tauntauns during a blizzard on the sixth planet of the Hoth system.
Wouldn't it be more like a sandstorm on Tatoonie?

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Re: Now there's an interesting shot! (2009 Nov 1)

Post by harry » Mon Nov 02, 2009 12:33 pm

G'day from the land of ozzzz

Just amazing image.

Did you notice the dot on the bottom right hand corner?
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Re: Now there's an interesting shot! (2009 Nov 1)

Post by Redbone » Mon Nov 02, 2009 12:55 pm

harry wrote:Did you notice the dot on the bottom right hand corner?
You've got a stuck pixel.

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Re: Now there's an interesting shot!

Post by neufer » Mon Nov 02, 2009 1:13 pm

bystander wrote:
neufer wrote:It's just another Wampa chasing Tauntauns during a blizzard on the sixth planet of the Hoth system.
Wouldn't it be more like a sandstorm on Tatoonie?
I would think that that would be too red or too purple:
However, a nice warm womp rat "Snuggie" might be the cosmic latte color of "Asterisk" quote boxes:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Star_Wars_creatures#Womp_rat wrote:
<<A womp rat is a scavenging, rodential creature, one of the most vile creatures native to Tatooine. They are covered in short fur that is usually yellow or tan. They look through garbage and waste dumps for meals. Due to the exposure to radioactive waste and chemicals, womp rats can mutate into larger beasts, with larger jaws, long, whip-like tails, and even an infectious disease-causing saliva.>>
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Re: Now there's an interesting shot! (2009 Nov 1)

Post by Star*Hopper » Mon Nov 02, 2009 2:45 pm

DonAVP wrote:... "At first I thought that the picture was taking way to long to load. And oh!" ...

"Now that's funny right there, I don't care where you're from!"
~Sum Fat Komedyguy

But OK I'll confess - I had only a 1/3 browser window open loading it while I was busy with something else (the agony of dialup)....and at first I thought something was wrong too. Opening full window & scrolling down to the caption saved the day. (Well, more or less, not counting the underwhelm.)
DonAVP wrote:..."This is the most boring picture I have seen on the site" :roll: ...
I've heard/read 'beige' described as the most boring color in the entire visible spectrum....so that observation is spot on, even moreso'n you likely imagined.

My topic was total sarc, if it needs saying....and thus continues my campaign against images NOT deserving of APOD status. Why in heavens name do we have to suffer such when there's imagery like this out there?
Image

A suggestion I posted on a forum of mine:
You guys wanta see something that's heart-stoppingly beautiful?
First - Click this link & check out this image:
http://ciclops.org/view_media/29018/The_Rite_of_Spring
Next - Right-click & save the image to your hard drive. Note the file name.
Then - On your 'Start' menu, take 'Documents', & you should see the file name
listed.
Click it - it should open in your Windows Image Viewer/Previewer.
Hit F11 - it gives you a Full Screen View.
Lean back in your chair, & take in a whole mess o' awesomeness.

Briefly, it's Saturn at Equinox. That means, no sunlight directly on the
rings -- what's lit is light reflected from the planet itself.
Courtesy of Cassini. (Just this past August)

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PS: Don't know why the image isn't posting. Exact same URL as the link posted in addendum; I selected same, without spaces, & hit the 'IMG' button - & the BBCode appears correctly. What am I missing??
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Re: Now there's an interesting shot! (2009 Nov 1)

Post by bystander » Mon Nov 02, 2009 3:02 pm

Star*Hopper wrote:My topic was total sarc, if it needs saying....and thus continues my campaign against images NOT deserving of APOD status. Why in heavens name do we have to suffer such when there's imagery like this out there?
http://ciclops.org/view_media/29018/The_Rite_of_Spring
http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap090930.html

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Re: Now there's an interesting shot! (2009 Nov 1)

Post by beckfield » Mon Nov 02, 2009 3:52 pm

I thought it was pale green.

http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/u ... 20110.html

Think about it, though: In this one image, you've seen every sight there is to see in the universe... :D

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Re: Now there's an interesting shot! (2009 Nov 1)

Post by Star*Hopper » Mon Nov 02, 2009 5:00 pm

Thanx 'by';
Couldn't remember the date, so posted the 'original' from my bookmarks.
Other stunning Cassini imagery available here:
http://ciclops.org/view_event/116/A_Rar ... _Spectacle
and an, at times, sort've poetic project overview by CICLOPS' Joe Mason, here:
http://ciclops.org/view.php?id=5844

Long Live Cassini!!!
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Re: Now there's an interesting shot! (2009 Nov 1)

Post by Mac » Mon Nov 02, 2009 7:00 pm

Has the average color of the universe been corrected for the increasingly red-shifted light spectrum that we observe from objects at greater distances (and therefore greater recessional velocities)?

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Re: Now there's an interesting shot! (2009 Nov 1)

Post by jzerm » Mon Nov 02, 2009 8:14 pm

Ah, this spookily reminds me of a song I used to play over and over as a teenager (and from time to time today) by the Dead Milkmen.

http://www.deadmilkmen.com/lyrics/beige_sunshine.html

Check out the lyrics...eerily apt, eh?

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Re: Now there's an interesting shot! (2009 Nov 1)

Post by apodman » Mon Nov 02, 2009 9:10 pm

If your video is set to 24- or 32-bit color, your browser is newer than antique, and these two colors look the same to you, then your monitor brightness is way too high:

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Scrolling or moving the window usually lets me know whether a wild pixel is on the screen or in the image.

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Re: Now there's an interesting shot! (2009 Nov 1)

Post by geckzilla » Tue Nov 03, 2009 5:23 am

Well, I probably would have named it after cheese. But I guess many astronomers share an affinity for caffeinated beverages such as coffee given the late nights and early mornings.
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Re: Now there's an interesting shot! (2009 Nov 1)

Post by harry » Tue Nov 03, 2009 12:16 pm

G'day redbone

If you did notice a dot on the right bottom corner, then you had one toooo many drinks.
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Re: Now there's an interesting shot! (2009 Nov 1)

Post by apodman » Tue Nov 03, 2009 12:23 pm

nadia wrote:What gives cheese its color?

Milk is essentially white whether it comes from a cow, sheep or goat. So why are there so many colors of cheese? A couple of different factors come into play here, the primary ones being:

- Milk type. Goat cheese is always white because the beta carotene in the goat’s diet is broken down into Vitamin A before it enters the animal’s milk. Sheep and cows retain the beta carotene in their milk, giving their cheeses a yellowish color.

- Animal diet. Cheese color can vary depending on what the animals have been eating. Cows grazing on alpine flowers and fresh grass will have higher levels of beta carotene in their milk than cows who have been feeding on hay.

- Added colorant. Often a natural coloring annatto will be added to cow and sheep’s milk cheeses to create a more uniform and deeper colored cheese (most notable with bright orange or red cheddars). The brighter and more uniform color is used primarily to disguise seasonal fluctuations in the animal’s diet, as well as a marketing tool (some consider brighter to be better, or sharper tasting).
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Re: Now there's an interesting shot! (2009 Nov 1)

Post by neufer » Tue Nov 03, 2009 1:18 pm

geckzilla wrote:Well, I probably would have named it after cheese.
The Universe is made of yellow cheese?
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Re: Now there's an interesting shot! (2009 Nov 1)

Post by WatchTower » Tue Nov 03, 2009 6:16 pm

I think if anything I was very disappointed when I saw that APOD. I have come to expect far more from this site and I almost had to check the calendar to see if someone had slipped an April fools joke in on us.

I think that there are far better images that could have been used. What next? an image of a smudged lens? How about an image of bird droppings left on a lens.

Truly disappointing.

Maybe i just expected too much from the site.

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Re: Now there's an interesting shot! (2009 Nov 1)

Post by apodman » Tue Nov 03, 2009 7:53 pm

APOD 2009 November 1
APOD 2002 July 2
APOD wrote:This color has become much less blue over the past 10 billion years, indicating that redder stars are becoming more prevalent.
There is no color change in the past 7+ years in these pictures, but they do show that the universe is expanding faster than previously believed; in 2002 the universe was 625 x 475 pixels, while by 2009 it had grown to 900 x 600 pixels.

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Re: Now there's an interesting shot! (2009 Nov 1)

Post by neufer » Tue Nov 03, 2009 8:22 pm

apodman wrote:APOD 2009 November 1
APOD 2002 July 2
There is no color change in the past 7+ years in these pictures, but they do show that the universe is expanding faster than previously believed; in 2002 the universe was 625 x 475 pixels, while by 2009 it had grown to 900 x 600 pixels.
Dark Energy :?:
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Re: Now there's an interesting shot! (2009 Nov 1)

Post by apodman » Tue Nov 03, 2009 8:31 pm

beckfield wrote:I thought it was pale green.

http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/u ... 20110.html

Think about it, though: In this one image, you've seen every sight there is to see in the universe... :D
The pale green color shown in your link is 161R + 232G + 205B. This makes me wonder, since the brightness is arbitrary, why they didn't increase the brightness until one channel was at maximum (near 184R + 255G + 228B) - other than that it would tend to oppose the author's opinion of "a very disappointing shade of green, really."

About this pale green color Wikipedia says, "The original and incorrect color thought to describe the universe was 'cosmic turquoise' due to an error in the way that the software used had calculated the shade." But the pale green color shown is 153R + 255G + 204B which anyone will recognize as the "web safe" color 99FFCC that I wouldn't believe without verification.

The same Wikipedia article shows and specifies the cosmic latte color as 255R + 248G + 231B (FFF8E7) instead of 255R + 248G + 230B (FFF8E6) as shown in the APOD. The actual calculated color must fall somewhere in between.

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If so, lots of it.

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Re: Now there's an interesting shot! (2009 Nov 1)

Post by beckfield » Wed Nov 04, 2009 12:33 am

apodman wrote:
About this pale green color Wikipedia says, "The original and incorrect color thought to describe the universe was 'cosmic turquoise' due to an error in the way that the software used had calculated the shade." But the pale green color shown is 153R + 255G + 204B which anyone will recognize as the "web safe" color 99FFCC that I wouldn't believe without verification.
Ah, good. I had not seen the correction. Thanks.

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