30 Voids In The Universe

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30 Voids In The Universe

Post by The Code » Fri Jul 17, 2009 1:02 am

I have just counted 30 voids in the universe. Walls of super clusters,, Is there a pattern forming the we can see locally? Which made me go looking,,,,

Then I found this..: http://techrepublic.com.com/5208-6230-0 ... 25&start=0

Get your mind around this Puppy... Abstract :

Where is the void? I know. The void is inside and outside everything. You, right now even while you live, are always inside and outside the void simultaneously. You don't have to go anywhere or die to get there. The void is the vacuum or nothingness between all physical manifestations. The SPACE between atoms and their components. Modern science has begun to study this space between everything. They call it zero-point. Whenever they try to measure it, their instruments go off the scale, or to infinity, so to speak. They have no way, as of yet, to measure infinity accurately. There is more of the zero space in your own body and the universe than anything else!

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Re: 30 Voids In The Universe

Post by neufer » Fri Jul 17, 2009 2:08 am

mark swain wrote:I have just counted 30 voids in the universe. Walls of super clusters,,
Is there a pattern forming the we can see locally? Which made me go looking,,,,
1) http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/e ... Nearsc.gif is just a small nearby piece of the universe.

2) Do you count "30 voids" of the same size?
If so, then how many voids are there of half that size?

If there are ~120 smaller voids then the "fractal dimension" D = log(120/30)/log(2) = 2

If there are ~240 smaller voids then the "fractal dimension" D = log(240/30)/log(2) = 3
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fractal_cosmology wrote:
<<In physical cosmology, fractal cosmology relates to the usage of fractal geometry in the study of the universe's structure. A central issue in this field is the fractal dimension of the Universe or of matter distribution within it, when measured at very large or very small scales.

In "Fractals: form, chance, and dimension" (1977) Benoit Mandelbrot suggested that galaxies are fractally distributed, and gave a mathematical expression for such distributions. Mandelbrot’s book "The Fractal Geometry of Nature" followed up with new ideas and tools.

In a standard Big Bang or FLRW cosmology, and in most interpretations of the Lambda-CDM (expanding Cold Dark Matter) model, the universe is expected to be homogeneous and isotropic (or smoothly distributed) at a large enough scale (see End of greatness). The Sloan Digital Sky Survey shows that large scale structure is smooth on scales above 100 Megaparsecs, estimating the overall fractal dimension of galaxy distribution at 3.

However, a group of Italian physicists, including Luciano Pietronero of the University of Rome and Francesco Sylos Labini of the Enrico Fermi Centre in Rome, believes that the universe has a fractal dimension of about 2 at all scales.>>
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Re: 30 Voids In The Universe

Post by apodman » Fri Jul 17, 2009 2:25 am

neufer wrote:how many voids are there of half that size?
Are we also concerned with voids of double that size, or is there a largest size we are dealing with that starts the fractal set, and if so are we already seeing the largest size?

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Re: 30 Voids In The Universe

Post by neufer » Fri Jul 17, 2009 2:32 am

apodman wrote:
neufer wrote:how many voids are there of half that size?
Are we also concerned with voids of double that size, or is there a largest size we are dealing with that starts the fractal set, and if so are we already seeing the largest size?
Presumably, this is the largest void:
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap070827.html
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Re: 30 Voids In The Universe

Post by BMAONE23 » Fri Jul 17, 2009 4:39 pm

neufer wrote:
apodman wrote:
neufer wrote:how many voids are there of half that size?
Are we also concerned with voids of double that size, or is there a largest size we are dealing with that starts the fractal set, and if so are we already seeing the largest size?
Presumably, this is the largest void:
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap070827.html
Definitely a space to a-void

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Re: 30 Voids In The Universe

Post by bystander » Fri Jul 17, 2009 4:59 pm

BMAONE23 wrote:
neufer wrote:Presumably, this is the largest void:
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap070827.html
Definitely a space to a-void
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Re: 30 Voids In The Universe

Post by The Code » Fri Jul 17, 2009 8:56 pm

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Re: 30 Voids In The Universe

Post by Star*Hopper » Wed Jul 22, 2009 1:25 pm

Not to troll, but....

"... their instruments go off the scale, or to infinity, so to speak."
Your association, or someone else's - either way, it's pretty much of a reach, innit?
Word of convenience, without basis??

&&&
"They have no way, as of yet, to measure infinity accurately."
Measure infinity? I see an oxymoronish humor in that, somehow.
Apparently someone's definition of infinity differs from mine.

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Re: 30 Voids In The Universe

Post by apodman » Fri Jul 24, 2009 1:16 am

Star*Hopper wrote:Apparently someone's definition of infinity differs from mine.
Scott Carey ([url=http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0050539/]The Incredible Shrinking Man[/url] - 1957) wrote:I was continuing to shrink, to become... what? The infinitesimal? What was I? Still a human being? Or was I the man of the future? If there were other bursts of radiation, other clouds drifting across seas and continents, would other beings follow me into this vast new world? So close - the infinitesimal and the infinite. But suddenly, I knew they were really the two ends of the same concept. The unbelievably small and the unbelievably vast eventually meet - like the closing of a gigantic circle. I looked up, as if somehow I would grasp the heavens. The universe, worlds beyond number, God's silver tapestry spread across the night. And in that moment, I knew the answer to the riddle of the infinite. I had thought in terms of man's own limited dimension. I had presumed upon nature. That existence begins and ends in man's conception, not nature's. And I felt my body dwindling, melting, becoming nothing. My fears melted away. And in their place came acceptance. All this vast majesty of creation, it had to mean something. And then I meant something, too. Yes, smaller than the smallest, I meant something, too. To God, there is no zero. I still exist!
So profound and profoundly nonsensical it makes me chuckle every time.

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