Great Carina Nebula, aka NGC 3372? (2009 Feb 16)

[chuckrossier]

How does a cloud of gas and dust with mass more than 10,000 times our sun accumulate in an 8 billion year old galaxy? Shouldn't the majority of the mass have condensed into stars billions of years ago? And a supernova only once a century in a volume of more than 10E15 cubic light years? And the majority of stars having been sun-like and burned out ash billions of years ago?

[orin stepanek]

http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap090216.html

I'm thinking it didn't accumulate so much, as that it was here since the galaxy formed. Eventually, I believe it will condense into stars if the conditions are right.

Orin

[neufer]

How does a cloud of gas and dust with mass more than 10,000 times our sun accumulate in an 8 billion year old galaxy? Shouldn't the majority of the mass have condensed into stars billions of years ago? And a supernova only once a century in a volume of more than 10E15 cubic light years? And the majority of stars having been sun-like and burned out ash billions of years ago?

Like cicadas, H II regions apparent spend most of their life in a semi-dormant adolescent state:

<<The precursor to an H II region is a giant molecular cloud (GMC). A GMC is a very cool (10–20 K) and dense cloud consisting mostly of molecular hydrogen. GMCs can exist in a stable state for long periods of time, but shock waves due to supernovae, collisions between clouds, and magnetic interactions can all trigger the collapse of part of the cloud. When this happens, via a process of collapse and fragmentation of the cloud, stars are born. As stars are born within a GMC, the most massive will reach temperatures hot enough to ionise the surrounding gas. Soon after the formation of an ionising radiation field, energetic photons create an ionisation front, which sweeps through the surrounding gas at supersonic speeds. At greater and greater distances from the ionising star, the ionisation front slows, while the pressure of the newly ionised gas causes the ionised volume to expand. Eventually, the ionisation front slows to subsonic speeds, and is overtaken by the shock front caused by the expansion of the nebula. The H II region has been born. The lifetime of an H II region is of the order of a few million years. Radiation pressure from the hot young stars will eventually drive most of the gas away. In fact, the whole process tends to be very inefficient, with less than 10 per cent of the gas in the H II region forming into stars before the rest is blown away. Also contributing to the loss of gas are the supernova explosions of the most massive stars, which will occur after only 1–2 million years.>>