Bonestell Panorama from Mars (APOD 2009 January 20)
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Bonestell Panorama from Mars (APOD 2009 January 20)
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Conquest of Space (1955)
General Samuel T. Merritt: Before any of you accept, I should like to make it unmistakably clear that the dangers of this journey are above and beyond anything that the Space Corps or your own governments have any right to ask of you. I can give you confounded little reason for this attempt to reach Mars, and no assurance at all that it will even be successful. It's my personal conviction that no one but an idiot would volunteer, and I shall strongly suspect the sanity of anyone who does. All right, we've all got it straight. Who wants to go?
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Conquest of Space (1955)
General Samuel T. Merritt: Before any of you accept, I should like to make it unmistakably clear that the dangers of this journey are above and beyond anything that the Space Corps or your own governments have any right to ask of you. I can give you confounded little reason for this attempt to reach Mars, and no assurance at all that it will even be successful. It's my personal conviction that no one but an idiot would volunteer, and I shall strongly suspect the sanity of anyone who does. All right, we've all got it straight. Who wants to go?
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Re: Bonestell Panorama from Mars (APOD 2009 January 20)
I kind of miss the pictures that the rovers sent before shutting down for the winter. How long is the martian winter anyway? Twice as long as ours? I hope they can start the rovers clicking again after their hibernation.
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Re: Bonestell Panorama from Mars (APOD 2009 January 20)
I think my qualifications speak for themselves, so Count me in, Neufer!
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Re: Bonestell Panorama from Mars (APOD 2009 January 20)
How do the scientist who labeled this panorama of Mars know the heights of mountains or hills? On earth, we reference our ocean’s sea level. Is there a sea level like reference on Mars?
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Re: Bonestell Panorama from Mars (APOD 2009 January 20)
The reference level for Martian altitude is defined by the triple point of water: 6.105 mbar at 273.16K. That is, the elevation where the atmospheric pressure is 6.105 mbar near 0°C is the zero datum.johnblanding wrote:How do the scientist who labeled this panorama of Mars know the heights of mountains or hills? On earth, we reference our ocean’s sea level. Is there a sea level like reference on Mars?
I'd assume that the hills identified in the image are with respect to this reference, although I suppose they could also be relative to the rover's position.
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Re: Bonestell Panorama from Mars (APOD 2009 January 20)
I took the labels for distances, not heights.
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Re: Bonestell Panorama from Mars (APOD 2009 January 20)
Yes, that does seem to make more sense. I didn't look very closely; where my viewer came up zoomed, all I saw was Summit of Husband Hill, 754m, which obviously seems like a height on first glance, and I didn't pay much attention to the other labels (the image itself is too fascinating- the labels are really a distraction).apodman wrote:I took the labels for distances, not heights.
In any case, the question about heights on Mars was a good one, and interesting.
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Re: Bonestell Panorama from Mars (APOD 2009 January 20)
Thanks for your replies.
And, in addition to the meters and feet used to locate points of interest, the word "sol" or is it an abbreviation, is also included. What could sol mean?
And, in addition to the meters and feet used to locate points of interest, the word "sol" or is it an abbreviation, is also included. What could sol mean?
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Re: Bonestell Panorama from Mars (APOD 2009 January 20)
"Sols" are just Martian days. The term is used to avoid confusion with normal Earth days as used by the mission controllers. I assume the reference in the labels is to the rover being in those spots at those dates. You can go through the raw image database by sols, so if you see something interesting near one of these date references, you know where to look for images made around that time and place.johnblanding wrote:Thanks for your replies.
And, in addition to the meters and feet used to locate points of interest, the word "sol" or is it an abbreviation, is also included. What could sol mean?
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Re: Bonestell Panorama from Mars (APOD 2009 January 20)
Very interesting. The measurements are definitely distances. No way that Grissom Hill is 5.3 miles high.
The one question I have is simple, and apparently overlooked:
Where are the tracks of travel, or "footprints" if you will, for the Spirit rover? I see evidence of winds on the terrain, but are they strong enough to cover the Spirit rover's tracks? If they're not strong enough, has it been stationed there long enough for the winds to completely cover any evidence of them? These 200 pictures were taken from it's stationary spot for winter, but when? A few weeks in?
Just something I thought would be a bit more apparent. Also, you guys missed a few spots cleaning up, between "West" and "Spirit Landing Site" there's black edging, and more directly above "West Spur".
The one question I have is simple, and apparently overlooked:
Where are the tracks of travel, or "footprints" if you will, for the Spirit rover? I see evidence of winds on the terrain, but are they strong enough to cover the Spirit rover's tracks? If they're not strong enough, has it been stationed there long enough for the winds to completely cover any evidence of them? These 200 pictures were taken from it's stationary spot for winter, but when? A few weeks in?
Just something I thought would be a bit more apparent. Also, you guys missed a few spots cleaning up, between "West" and "Spirit Landing Site" there's black edging, and more directly above "West Spur".
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Re: Bonestell Panorama from Mars (APOD 2009 January 20)
http://www.planetary.org/blog/article/00001816/orin stepanek wrote:I kind of miss the pictures that the rovers sent before shutting down for the winter. How long is the martian winter anyway? Twice as long as ours? I hope they can start the rovers clicking again after their hibernation.
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