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by Sputnick
Fri Nov 21, 2008 6:55 pm
Forum: The Asterisk Café: Discuss Anything Astronomy Related
Topic: Planetary Formation
Replies: 36
Views: 4764

Re: Planetary Formation

Okay - how about a planet-sized globe of water forming within a molecular cloud, the cloud's density sufficient to prevent the globe's sublimation? Those clouds would have to become pretty dense to create stars - I understand the overall density of the sun is only slightly more than water. (?) So -...
by Sputnick
Fri Nov 21, 2008 6:42 pm
Forum: The Asterisk Café: Discuss Anything Astronomy Related
Topic: Planetary Formation
Replies: 36
Views: 4764

Re: Planetary Formation

Why not as well keep the possibility of ID , for example? ... I think ID is most appropriate - It is the dark, inaccessible part of our personality, what little we know of it we have learnt from our study of the dream-work and of the construction of neurotic symptoms, and most of this is of a negat...
by Sputnick
Fri Nov 21, 2008 6:20 pm
Forum: The Asterisk Café: Discuss Anything Astronomy Related
Topic: Planetary Formation
Replies: 36
Views: 4764

Re: Planetary Formation

I suggest you read up about the thermodynamic concept of the triple point , in particular the triple point for water, and then reconsider this suggestion. I shall attempt this but it will not change my mind that some planets are formed from within planet sized globes of water, and I foresaw your ar...
by Sputnick
Fri Nov 21, 2008 6:08 pm
Forum: The Asterisk Café: Discuss Anything Astronomy Related
Topic: Planetary Formation
Replies: 36
Views: 4764

Re: Planetary Formation

Hello Sputnick, I read your first post and while the point counterpoint is in full swing there is something you mentioned at the very start of your thread which eluded me. It's probably dumb to ask but what to type of molecule were you referring to when you said, "........one molecule......&qu...
by Sputnick
Fri Nov 21, 2008 6:06 pm
Forum: The Asterisk Café: Discuss Anything Astronomy Related
Topic: Planetary Formation
Replies: 36
Views: 4764

Re: Planetary Formation

Q) Can water, if containing enough dissolved iron solids, become magnetized and display signs of polarity? If so, a totally liquid planet (as seen in a Star Trek Voager episode) might be hypothetically possible IF it were to have enough mass to retain an atmosphere, be close enough to its parent st...
by Sputnick
Fri Nov 21, 2008 6:04 pm
Forum: The Asterisk Café: Discuss Anything Astronomy Related
Topic: Planetary Formation
Replies: 36
Views: 4764

Re: Planetary Formation

The problem with water in space is that it would take atmospheric pressure to prevent it from sublimating directly to space and it would take relatively high temperatures to keep it in liquid form to allow for the time needed for the dissolved solids in the water to form around the molecule involve...
by Sputnick
Fri Nov 21, 2008 5:55 pm
Forum: The Asterisk Café: Discuss Anything Astronomy Related
Topic: Planetary Formation
Replies: 36
Views: 4764

Re: Planetary Formation

The problem with water in space is that it would take atmospheric pressure to prevent it from sublimating directly to space and it would take relatively high temperatures to keep it in liquid form to allow for the time needed for the dissolved solids in the water to form around the molecule involve...
by Sputnick
Fri Nov 21, 2008 5:35 pm
Forum: The Asterisk Café: Discuss Anything Astronomy Related
Topic: Could Dark Matter Possibly Be . . .
Replies: 315
Views: 30869

Re: Could Dark Matter Possibly Be . . .

Read this: http://preposterousuniverse.blogspot.com/2004/05/doubt-and-dissent-are-not-tolerated.html Apodman - here are the books I've read in the past two weeks - all but Einstein's lectures were written by proponents of Big Bang - but all admitted there were vast voids of knowledge, huge unanswer...
by Sputnick
Thu Nov 20, 2008 6:12 pm
Forum: The Asterisk Café: Discuss Anything Astronomy Related
Topic: Planetary Formation
Replies: 36
Views: 4764

Re: Planetary Formation

Well, first we ... Who is 'we'. I would prefer your answer to respond for yourself, not assuming that you know the minds of others who are old enough to speak for themselves. How can you object to Chris's use of the word we when you use it yourself? Or do you think you are better positioned to spea...
by Sputnick
Thu Nov 20, 2008 5:50 pm
Forum: The Asterisk Café: Discuss Anything Astronomy Related
Topic: Planetary Formation
Replies: 36
Views: 4764

Re: Planetary Formation

I have read in a magazine either resembling Scientific American or being Scientific American that a molecule dropped into water will grow rock in layers, beginning with Electron Scanning size layers. I'm taking your follow up comments as evidence that you realize that what you are saying here is me...
by Sputnick
Thu Nov 20, 2008 4:56 pm
Forum: The Asterisk Café: Discuss Anything Astronomy Related
Topic: Could Dark Matter Possibly Be . . .
Replies: 315
Views: 30869

Re: Could Dark Matter Possibly Be . . .

And I'm the one who's been accused of making up rules as I go along? "Doesn't require that it be immediately testable" indeed. I don't really understand why you spend time on this forum. You don't have the slightest grasp of how science works, and you demonstrate that you have no interest...
by Sputnick
Thu Nov 20, 2008 4:49 pm
Forum: The Asterisk Café: Discuss Anything Astronomy Related
Topic: Big Bang or Big Flush?
Replies: 40
Views: 4610

Re: Big Bang or Big Flush?

You estimation of my ability to copy direct quotes directly and acurately is highly mistaken in both cases. the Einstein quote came directly from his lecture .. the Tyson quote directly from the book. I don't doubt you are able to accurately copy quotes. What I doubt is that you are able to underst...
by Sputnick
Thu Nov 20, 2008 4:25 pm
Forum: The Asterisk Café: Discuss Anything Astronomy Related
Topic: Planetary Formation
Replies: 36
Views: 4764

Re: Planetary Formation

I have read in a magazine either resembling Scientific American or being Scientific American that a molecule dropped into water will grow in layers, beginning with Electron Scanning size layers. Electron scan photos were included in the article, showing these layers, and they clearly resembled laye...
by Sputnick
Thu Nov 20, 2008 4:19 pm
Forum: The Asterisk Café: Discuss Anything Astronomy Related
Topic: Big Bang or Big Flush?
Replies: 40
Views: 4610

Re: Big Bang or Big Flush?

'Origins' by Tyson - 2004 - page 175 - "Astrophysicists also lack any known mechanism to create Technetium in a star's core and to have it dredge itself up to the surface where they observe it." I don't have the book, but I doubt he says this. Actually, like the Einstein quote you mangled...
by Sputnick
Thu Nov 20, 2008 3:46 pm
Forum: The Asterisk Café: Discuss Anything Astronomy Related
Topic: Infinity
Replies: 20
Views: 1274

Re: Infinity

"Look unto the stars to teach us How the Master's thoughts can reach us Each one follows Newton's math Silently along its path." Albert Einstein I always wondered where Yoda learned to talk like that. Sounds like they adapted Einstein for Jedi nursery rhymes. Apodman's worst Jeopardy cate...
by Sputnick
Thu Nov 20, 2008 3:44 pm
Forum: The Asterisk Café: Discuss Anything Astronomy Related
Topic: Planetary Formation
Replies: 36
Views: 4764

Planetary Formation

Please bear with me as I start another topic. I have read in a magazine either resembling Scientific American or being Scientific American that a molecule dropped into water will grow rock in layers, beginning with Electron Scanning size layers. Electron scan photos were inlcuded in the article, sho...
by Sputnick
Thu Nov 20, 2008 3:26 pm
Forum: The Asterisk Café: Discuss Anything Astronomy Related
Topic: Big Bang or Big Flush?
Replies: 40
Views: 4610

Re: Big Bang or Big Flush?

According to what I read in origins the Tecnetium (Techneticum? I'll have to check that out) should have been burned up long, long ago. Technetium. And the only technetium that decayed long ago was that which was made long ago. But it is being made all the time in some types of stars. 'Origins' by ...
by Sputnick
Thu Nov 20, 2008 3:13 pm
Forum: The Asterisk Café: Discuss Anything Astronomy Related
Topic: Could Dark Matter Possibly Be . . .
Replies: 315
Views: 30869

Re: Could Dark Matter Possibly Be . . .

Kant's Philosophysing, Chris, was not testable until the big telescopes of the 1900s. I already posted that. You're very frustrating at times. You're ignoring the earlier lessons about the nature of science. Testability of a theory doesn't require that it be immediately testable. It means that a vi...
by Sputnick
Thu Nov 20, 2008 2:36 pm
Forum: The Asterisk Café: Discuss Anything Astronomy Related
Topic: Infinity
Replies: 20
Views: 1274

Re: Infinity

"Look unto the stars to teach us
How the Master's thoughts can reach us
Each one follows Newton's math
Silently along its path."

Albert Einstein
by Sputnick
Thu Nov 20, 2008 12:20 am
Forum: The Asterisk Café: Discuss Anything Astronomy Related
Topic: Could Dark Matter Possibly Be . . .
Replies: 315
Views: 30869

Re: Could Dark Matter Possibly Be . . .

Kant's suggestion wouldn't be well recceived in this forum unless it followed scientific forumla and could be tested (right?) Generally true. However, Kant's theory was testable, so I don't see the problem. Kant's Philosophysing, Chris, was not testable until the big telescopes of the 1900s. I alre...
by Sputnick
Thu Nov 20, 2008 12:10 am
Forum: The Asterisk Café: Discuss Anything Astronomy Related
Topic: Big Bang or Big Flush?
Replies: 40
Views: 4610

Re: Big Bang or Big Flush?

I just read that Technetium has a half life of 2 million years .. "far shorter than the age and life expectancy of the stars in which we observe it." ('peculiar' Red Giants. To me this is another example that the current 'concensus' if there is one, supporting Big Bang and theorized ages ...
by Sputnick
Wed Nov 19, 2008 8:33 pm
Forum: The Asterisk Café: Discuss Anything Astronomy Related
Topic: Could Dark Matter Possibly Be . . .
Replies: 315
Views: 30869

Re: Could Dark Matter Possibly Be . . .

Nereid - I was surprised considerably last night when I read that Hannes Alfven who took Kristian Birkeland's idea for PC, and expanded and promoted it almost to the point of concensus acceptance in the 1950s and 1960s was a Nobel winner. If Alfven were a guest here would he be allowed to freely di...
by Sputnick
Wed Nov 19, 2008 8:24 pm
Forum: The Asterisk Café: Discuss Anything Astronomy Related
Topic: Big Bang or Big Flush?
Replies: 40
Views: 4610

Re: Big Bang or Big Flush?

I just read that Technetium has a half life of 2 million years .. "far shorter than the age and life expectancy of the stars in which we observe it." ('peculiar' Red Giants. To me this is another example that the current 'concensus' if there is one, supporting Big Bang and theorized ages ...
by Sputnick
Wed Nov 19, 2008 8:21 pm
Forum: The Asterisk Café: Discuss Anything Astronomy Related
Topic: Could Dark Matter Possibly Be . . .
Replies: 315
Views: 30869

Re: Could Dark Matter Possibly Be . . .

What Kant (and others) were proposing was a solid hypothesis, if not yet quite a theory. Kant's suggestion wouldn't be well recceived in this forum unless it followed scientific forumla and could be tested (right?) ... .. It wasn't a big step from that to the idea that visible nebulas (which at the...
by Sputnick
Wed Nov 19, 2008 5:58 pm
Forum: The Asterisk Café: Discuss Anything Astronomy Related
Topic: Could Dark Matter Possibly Be . . .
Replies: 315
Views: 30869

Re: Could Dark Matter Possibly Be . . .

... however, I am on record, in this forum, as stating that Plasma Cosmology (PC) is non-science, so in respect of this being a science-based discussion forum, PC has no place here. Nereid - I was surprised considerably last night when I read that Hannes Alfven who took Kristian Birkeland's idea fo...