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by Sputnick
Fri Nov 14, 2008 7:30 pm
Forum: The Asterisk Café: Discuss Anything Astronomy Related
Topic: Could Dark Matter Possibly Be . . .
Replies: 315
Views: 30870

Re: Could Dark Matter Possibly Be . . .

I'm fairly certain you would be voted off the island. Not an inaccurate portrayal. I have seriously considered voting myself off the island, and would not be on this island if weather permitted more pleasant time outdoors. I would like to ask you if you are being deliberately obtuse, or if you are ...
by Sputnick
Fri Nov 14, 2008 7:13 pm
Forum: The Asterisk Café: Discuss Anything Astronomy Related
Topic: Could Dark Matter Possibly Be . . .
Replies: 315
Views: 30870

Re: Could Dark Matter Possibly Be . . .

A question. The force behind Expansion must be considerably weaker than gravitational force or Andromeda and Milky Way would not be approaching each other. True or false? That is a complex question, with no simple answer. First of all, their is no "force" behind the expansion of space. Wh...
by Sputnick
Fri Nov 14, 2008 7:05 pm
Forum: The Asterisk Café: Discuss Anything Astronomy Related
Topic: Could Dark Matter Possibly Be . . .
Replies: 315
Views: 30870

Re: Methods for estimating the age of the universe

I'm encouraged by your use of the word "significant" instead of 'majority'. However, I can't think of any case where consensus doesn't mean a majority. Where there is no majority opinion, most would simply say that a consensus has not been reached. For example, there is a consensus that t...
by Sputnick
Fri Nov 14, 2008 6:53 pm
Forum: The Asterisk Café: Discuss Anything Astronomy Related
Topic: What is Science?
Replies: 132
Views: 9625

Re: What is Science?

"We now realize, with special clarity, how much in error are those theorists who believe that theory comes inductively from experience. Even the great Newton could not free himself from this error (Hypotheses non fingo - I make no hypotheses). Albert Einstein - Physic and Reality (about 40th p...
by Sputnick
Fri Nov 14, 2008 6:43 pm
Forum: The Asterisk Café: Discuss Anything Astronomy Related
Topic: Could Dark Matter Possibly Be . . .
Replies: 315
Views: 30870

Re: Methods for estimating the age of the universe

You provide the weapon, and in this case you also provided the invitation. And you beat us to death with wine, wine, wine and whine, whine, whine. What do you expect? Live by the sword ... You heard a whine when there was a buzz. You thought I was beating you when I was beating a different drum. So...
by Sputnick
Fri Nov 14, 2008 6:31 pm
Forum: The Asterisk Café: Discuss Anything Astronomy Related
Topic: Could Dark Matter Possibly Be . . .
Replies: 315
Views: 30870

Re: Could Dark Matter Possibly Be . . .

Hello Sputnick, Sorry, but I need to weigh in here. Please try to not forget this point because, after well over 200 posts in this thread, I still hear the same refrain in your dialog after all the attemp I have personally made to clear up the errant argument that you persist in using WRT the BBT. ...
by Sputnick
Fri Nov 14, 2008 6:12 pm
Forum: The Asterisk Café: Discuss Anything Astronomy Related
Topic: Could Dark Matter Possibly Be . . .
Replies: 315
Views: 30870

Re: Could Dark Matter Possibly Be . . .

Sorry about the (dumb) questions but are you saying that when the object originally formed it was already 13.7 billion Light Years away from us and, over the last 13.7 billion years, as its light has been traveling toward us, expansion has forced it to move away from us an additional 5 billion ligh...
by Sputnick
Fri Nov 14, 2008 6:05 pm
Forum: The Asterisk Café: Discuss Anything Astronomy Related
Topic: Could Dark Matter Possibly Be . . .
Replies: 315
Views: 30870

Re: Methods for estimating the age of the universe

The consensus is what it is. Nobody determines that; it is simply a recognition that a theory is accepted by a significant percentage of those expert in that field. Nobody thinks about whether they are "holding consensus", they simply decide what theories they accept as best. Chris, I'm e...
by Sputnick
Fri Nov 14, 2008 5:35 pm
Forum: The Asterisk Café: Discuss Anything Astronomy Related
Topic: The origin of Dark Energy
Replies: 46
Views: 3110

Re: The origin of Dark Energy

Nereid - I may have quoted the wrong page number of that book relating to Verschuur's "may not be related to mass" - page 349. As I said already here, I've read nothing in science magazines including this months' that contradict anything in Through a Universe Darkly .. and therefore canno...
by Sputnick
Fri Nov 14, 2008 5:33 pm
Forum: The Asterisk Café: Discuss Anything Astronomy Related
Topic: The origin of Dark Energy
Replies: 46
Views: 3110

Re: The origin of Dark Energy

[...] Religion? I made one historically accurate comment exploring with Chris whether or not it was electrical/magnetic repulsion which allowed Jesus to walk on the water, whether the soles of his feet got wet or not, and I am said to be making comments about religion? More wit perhaps: " and ...
by Sputnick
Fri Nov 14, 2008 5:27 pm
Forum: The Asterisk Café: Discuss Anything Astronomy Related
Topic: What is Science?
Replies: 132
Views: 9625

Re: What is Science?

apodman wrote:
Sputnick wrote:If I were around in [Einstein's] day, or he around now, perhaps I could persuade him to accept the 'universe on a slide' theory.
Persuade with what?
I suppose I could get him drunk, at which times almost anything seems possible or even certain.
by Sputnick
Fri Nov 14, 2008 5:26 pm
Forum: The Asterisk Café: Discuss Anything Astronomy Related
Topic: What is Science?
Replies: 132
Views: 9625

Re: What is Science?

Hello All, Einstein's quote did not call for physicists to become philosophers. "It has often been said, and certainly not without justification, that the man of science is a poor philosopher. Why then should it not be the right thing for the physicist to let the philosopher do the philosophys...
by Sputnick
Fri Nov 14, 2008 5:20 pm
Forum: The Asterisk Café: Discuss Anything Astronomy Related
Topic: What is Science?
Replies: 132
Views: 9625

Re: What is Science?

Danger, Will Robinson! Focus on and centering arguments around Einstein could be interpreted as discussion within the established structure and traditions of science. You might have inadvertently taken a step forward. If you follow where it leads, you might find something useful or even appealing. ...
by Sputnick
Fri Nov 14, 2008 12:32 am
Forum: The Asterisk Café: Discuss Anything Astronomy Related
Topic: The origin of Dark Energy
Replies: 46
Views: 3110

Re: The origin of Dark Energy

Isn't your 'you may' (incur wrath) - a little bit like saying, "Mommy - Billy started it." No it isn't. You missed yet another point. We see creatures having compassion on each other, and think - "should we do any less?" So it is written into religions. Yeah, nothing suggests Go...
by Sputnick
Fri Nov 14, 2008 12:25 am
Forum: The Asterisk Café: Discuss Anything Astronomy Related
Topic: Could Dark Matter Possibly Be . . .
Replies: 315
Views: 30870

Re: Methods for estimating the age of the universe

Our recent exchange of views, per our posts, captures well what is meant by this forum being a scientific one, focussed on astronomy; namely that questions and open comments (about astronomy) are welcome, but that repeated bald assertions - like this " The supposed age of the Big Bang universe...
by Sputnick
Fri Nov 14, 2008 12:17 am
Forum: The Asterisk Café: Discuss Anything Astronomy Related
Topic: Could Dark Matter Possibly Be . . .
Replies: 315
Views: 30870

Re: Methods for estimating the age of the universe

apodman wrote:
Sputnick wrote:
Whiner.
You misspelled that.
Whino?
Nereid - Help - Apeman is assaulting me outside of the protective boundaries of the forum.
by Sputnick
Fri Nov 14, 2008 12:09 am
Forum: The Asterisk Café: Discuss Anything Astronomy Related
Topic: What is Science?
Replies: 132
Views: 9625

Re: What is Science?

"We now realize, with special clarity, how much in error are those theorists who believe that theory comes inductively from experience. Even the great Newton could not free himself from this error (Hypotheses non fingo - I make no hypotheses). Albert Einstein - Physic and Reality (about 40th pa...
by Sputnick
Thu Nov 13, 2008 8:04 pm
Forum: The Asterisk Café: Discuss Anything Astronomy Related
Topic: What is Science?
Replies: 132
Views: 9625

Re: What is Science?

So how do you decide, Sputnick, which bits of what Einstein said you regard as correct, and which you regard as not correct? arent we all do it same way? by comparing to our own oppinion? Exactly - I've already trashed Einstein's opinion of an expanding universe .. well, sort of in a maybe kind of ...
by Sputnick
Thu Nov 13, 2008 8:01 pm
Forum: The Asterisk Café: Discuss Anything Astronomy Related
Topic: What is Science?
Replies: 132
Views: 9625

Re: What is Science?

Sputnick, did you noticed how Nereid nickname appears in red everywhere? This means, in particular, that within realm of this forum, science is whatever she says it is. Resistance is futile :) Yes, I did notice that redshift .. however .. I keep trying to persuade her to get drunk with me, red or w...
by Sputnick
Thu Nov 13, 2008 7:57 pm
Forum: The Asterisk Café: Discuss Anything Astronomy Related
Topic: What is Science?
Replies: 132
Views: 9625

Re: What is Science?

I read it somewhere .. sometime .. during the past 40 years. That's a long time when it comes to cosmology. Extend your reading scale far enough and you could argue that the Universe sits on the back of a turtle (or a stack of turtles). To me, absorbtion of light by Dark Matter seems easily accepte...
by Sputnick
Thu Nov 13, 2008 7:50 pm
Forum: The Asterisk Café: Discuss Anything Astronomy Related
Topic: The origin of Dark Energy
Replies: 46
Views: 3110

Re: The origin of Dark Energy

Rational observation supports faith. The more I understand nature, the more faith I acquire. "For the things which are seen arise from things which cannot be seen." "the invisible things of God can be know from the things of natural creation." Chris, aren't we going to incur the...
by Sputnick
Thu Nov 13, 2008 7:44 pm
Forum: The Asterisk Café: Discuss Anything Astronomy Related
Topic: Could Dark Matter Possibly Be . . .
Replies: 315
Views: 30870

Re: Methods for estimating the age of the universe

Where I don't have the background, I don't participate and I don't delude myself that my uninformed participation would be of any value. Intuition is valuable, Apodman .. because we all live in this world, we all gain knowledge in our subconscious which springs out as intuition, and intuitions spri...
by Sputnick
Thu Nov 13, 2008 7:34 pm
Forum: The Asterisk Café: Discuss Anything Astronomy Related
Topic: What is Science?
Replies: 132
Views: 9625

Re: What is Science?

Ignorance about what? About everything you say. It's incredible. It's either a joke or an intentional continued pointless harangue. Mixed with belligerence, ignorance makes an ugly cocktail. I'm sorry you see it that way, Apod. However, that is the way I see the Big Bang crowd, so I suppose in cons...
by Sputnick
Thu Nov 13, 2008 7:30 pm
Forum: The Asterisk Café: Discuss Anything Astronomy Related
Topic: What is Science?
Replies: 132
Views: 9625

Re: What is Science?

...I am finding my time pretty well wasted anyway. Please include the context .. or not .. it doesn't matter. In light of this stark difference which seems to have emerged, is there any point in continuing this thread? @Nereid, you are new Captain Obvious. Sputnick does not see the science the way ...
by Sputnick
Thu Nov 13, 2008 7:22 pm
Forum: The Asterisk Café: Discuss Anything Astronomy Related
Topic: What is Science?
Replies: 132
Views: 9625

Re: What is Science?

If you won't listen to Einstein, you're not going to listen to me .. and your comment certainly validates what I have been saying, that your mind is closed. I'm happy to listen to Einstein. Like I said, he was a clever guy, and said lots of good things (outside the realm of science). Many I agree w...