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[quote=CurtT post_id=288238 time=1545291955]

Wouldn't it be better to launch at local noon? At that point in time and space the Earth's 67,000 mph speed is decreased by 1040 mph at the equator, maybe 900 at the cape, thanks to Earth's rotation. That reduces total energy by almost 1/67th.[/quote]
Spacecraft must [b][u]first[/u][/b] go into circular orbit at ~17,000 mph... which is easiest done from the equator heading due East ([b][u]but at any time of day[/u][/b]) .

The spacecraft then gives a burst of thrust at ~17,000 mph for maximum power (= F x v) to go into a [b][u]hyperbolic orbit[/u][/b] that places it on a path either in the direction of Earth's motion around the Sun (by starting the maneuver in the evening-time) or (for Parker say) in the opposite direction (by starting the maneuver in the morning).

It is all done in stages such that each stage provides the maximum power (= F x v) [b][u]at its start[/u][/b] while the final stage [b][u]ends up[/u][/b] going in the proper direction.

Wouldn't it be better to launch at local noon? At that point in time and space the Earth's 67,000 mph speed is decreased by 1040 mph at the equator, maybe 900 at the cape, thanks to Earth's rotation. That reduces total energy by almost 1/67th.

[quote=MarkBour post_id=285370 time=1535478029 user_id=141361]
[quote=neufer post_id=285347 time=1535416222 user_id=124483]
[quote=MarkBour post_id=285345 time=1535412793 user_id=141361]

Since we have not sent anything that close to the Sun before,
I wonder a little if they are right about the temperature that the shielded part will experience.[/quote]
Black Body radiation is pretty well understood.

[b]Parker Solar Probe shield Temp. = 0.89 x (Photosphere Temp.: 5,772 K) / sqrt(distance in R[sub]☉[/sub])[/b]
[/quote]
But the Parker Solar Probe will get into the corona, right?
The gases therein are evidently not heated by blackbody radiation.
Helping figure out how that works is why it is being sent there ...
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The corona is "hot" in the same way that the Earth's thermosphere is. That's where the ISS orbits, and the temperature is over 2000° C. The ISS does not need a heat shield. The corona where the Parker probe will dip has a density of around 10[sup]9[/sup] particles per cubic centimeter. That's a pretty good vacuum. What that means is that very little heat is transferred. "Hot" means very energetic particles as well as x-ray emission. That's what they had to be concerned about. The heat shield protects the probe from ordinary solar radiation. Other measures are used to protect from radiation and energetic plasma in the corona itself.

[quote=neufer post_id=285347 time=1535416222 user_id=124483]
[quote=MarkBour post_id=285345 time=1535412793 user_id=141361]

Since we have not sent anything that close to the Sun before,
I wonder a little if they are right about the temperature that the shielded part will experience.[/quote]
Black Body radiation is pretty well understood.

[b]Parker Solar Probe shield Temp. = 0.89 x (Photosphere Temp.: 5,772 K) / sqrt(distance in R[sub]☉[/sub])[/b]
[/quote]
But the Parker Solar Probe will get into the corona, right?
The gases therein are evidently not heated by blackbody radiation.
Helping figure out how that works is why it is being sent there ...

[quote=MarkBour post_id=285345 time=1535412793 user_id=141361]

Since we have not sent anything that close to the Sun before,
I wonder a little if they are right about the temperature that the shielded part will experience.[/quote]
Black Body radiation is pretty well understood.

[b]Parker Solar Probe shield Temp. = 0.89 x [Photosphere Temp.: 5,772 K) / sqrt(distance in R[sub]☉[/sub])[/b]]

Since we have not sent anything that close to the Sun before, I wonder a little if they are right about the temperature that the shielded part will experience. I'm sure they've modeled it based on the knowledge we already have of the solar wind and corona. I hope it goes smoothly and gathers lots of interesting data.

Of course the best time to launch a probe to the sun is .. on a sunday :D

I like to use that same angle for launching from KSC. The ship looks awfully familiar too. I gotta get a high rez texture mod like this image.
Good to see they added the extra boosters and struts too :D

It's the photographer that needed a shield. Let alone his camera. :wink: Sure his aperture was only open a [url=https://youtu.be/w3ngdm6GTbc?t=30] whisper[/url]. 8-)

Go, Baby, Go!!!!

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