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by **apodman** » Tue Mar 18, 2008 11:04 pm

Last time I looked at browser market stats: IE had pretty much wiped out all its old competition, the once mighty Netscape Navigator had fallen nearly to zero market share, and Mozilla Firefox was the new alternative gaining market share very fast.

While my very cursory survey reveals that IE still has the greater functionality, Firefox works on a lot of platforms too and does a few things quicker and nicer. If a script on a web page is not completing for whatever reason, Firefox tells me while IE leaves me hanging. I'm also impressed that the download to install Firefox was a relatively small file compared to the functionality it provides or compared to an IE download. Still, I use IE for familiarity and Firefox only for sites and pages where IE won't do the job. My old PC chokes on some flash video ads in IE whereas Firefox handles them better - I wish they would go away entirely. Done wandering now.

by **NoelC** » Sun Mar 16, 2008 6:23 pm

Wicked wrote:Hm... there's no such thing as "security" if you're using internet explorer...

Spoken like a true Microsoft hater and person who enjoys paddling upstream (and hiding behind a handle instead of stepping up to the forum like a man). Frankly, the only truth in this is that IE gives the most/best functionality, and more importantly is installed on far more platforms than any other, and so it has been attacked far harder than those other "also rans".

Rather than hate it and avoid it for no good reason, might as well learn to use it adeptly.

You will be assimilated.

-Noel

by **alexpirie** » Sun Mar 16, 2008 3:46 pm

thnx steerpike and arramon -

don't digg it, don't like it, too much clutter and cute talk - save it for Wonkette. cyberbabbleclutter begone.

by **Arramon** » Mon Mar 03, 2008 4:36 pm

derr... i can't edit it. I'm not admin. =b

hah... stupid work computer.

by **wetr** » Fri Feb 29, 2008 7:44 am

Arramon wrote:
Steerpike wrote:You want it gone? Just add the line:
127.0.0.1 digg.com
to your WINDOWS\HOSTS file (or ETC/HOSTS file if using Linux).
You'll see no trace of the digg things anymore.
Where do you mean? Is this in a batch file windows loads at startup?
Can you post the exact location within the Windows folder (if referring to one)? Or is this within the RegEdit...

"hosts" is is a file.
You'll find it in a folder below your C:\Windows directory named C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\etc (Type "%WINDIR%\system32\drivers\etc" into your explorer address bar - without the quotes).
You can edit it with Notepad or any other text editor (do not use Word or other word processors, as they will insert undecipherable characters into the file).
All changes come into effect immediately after you saved them.

by **wetr** » Fri Feb 29, 2008 7:38 am

Wouldn't mind this single button at all, as long as it doesn't bring its relatives like StumbleUpon, Propeller and the likes. There's loads of these "services", and their number is growing day by day - for whatever reason...

by **apodman** » Tue Feb 26, 2008 12:45 am

Even with a slick fix, the cybersensitive would still know the digg link script had been delivered to their computer in the page's html source code, harmless and invisible yet bothersome in a Princess & Pea sort of way. Sort of like sweeping dirt under the rug and still knowing it's there. For me, the link has already been rendered invisible by my inner Vulcan eyelid, so I need do no cyberhousekeeping.

by **Arramon** » Mon Feb 25, 2008 11:59 pm

Steerpike wrote:You want it gone? Just add the line:
127.0.0.1 digg.com
to your WINDOWS\HOSTS file (or ETC/HOSTS file if using Linux).
You'll see no trace of the digg things anymore.

Where do you mean? Is this in a batch file windows loads at startup?
Can you post the exact location within the Windows folder (if referring to one)? Or is this within the RegEdit...

by **Steerpike** » Mon Feb 25, 2008 10:08 pm

You want it gone? Just add the line:
127.0.0.1 digg.com
to your WINDOWS\HOSTS file (or ETC/HOSTS file if using Linux).
You'll see no trace of the digg things anymore.

by **Wicked** » Mon Feb 25, 2008 11:37 am

Hm... there's no such thing as "security" if you're using internet explorer...

Use a safer alternative browser like Firefox or Opera if your security is important to you.

But I'm not just gonna be off-topic here... I too see no reason for the digg button to be on APOD and although I learned to ignore it, it did bother me at first.

by **Arramon** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 6:17 pm

apodman wrote:Using last ounce of hydrazine and prehensile maneuvering rocket to dodge stinky kinetic impactor.

d'oh! the pentagon shot down my stinky fling! they didn't even hit the satellite..... =/

by **astrolabe** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 11:34 pm

If it wasn't for this forum I wouldn't know a Digg It existed. Still not on my APOD. Lucky?

by **apodman** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 6:55 pm

Using last ounce of hydrazine and prehensile maneuvering rocket to dodge stinky kinetic impactor.

by **Arramon** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 12:09 am

huh? did you just call me a monkey???? O.o

oh wait.. that digg link doesn't work for me...

I'm monkey immune!

oo! aa!

*scratches head and throws a stinky one at apodman*

by **apodman** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 6:49 pm

We are people, not trained monkeys. We express ourselves well and creatively in this Forum to each other. When we see a great APOD, or one of particular interest to a friend, or one of great general interest, we express ourselves directly to our friends and say in our own words, "hey, look at this." We are individuals who create our own rules of expression as we go, and we like it that way.

Now for the "man against the machine" lecture, but it's not the machine I view here with jaundiced eye, it's those who would lead their own kind into subservience to the machine and to (benign?) interests with commercial potential that attach themselves to the machine.

They tell me if I want to express myself I should do it on YouTube. If I am a throwback with no video to share, I must at least express myself on MySpace. Now if I want to recommend an APOD, I should become that trained monkey and click on the easy link with the cool name, reducing my individual expression to one more click on the heap and becoming an unpaid micro-cog in somebody's incipient on-line empire. I guess I'm just not modern, because that strikes me as something other than forward progress. Sure you can click and express too, but this whole pitch is aimed at your lazy bone and it will surely degrade someone to monkey status before long - don't let this tragedy happen to you!

by **FieryIce** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 4:02 pm

Just more garbage to litter a web page.

by **yath** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 3:58 pm

The digg link is tacky and unnecessary.

by **apodman** » Fri Feb 15, 2008 10:34 pm

Somebody's been taking management lessons: if anyone doesn't fall down on their knees and worship your tacky little idea, just accuse them of being upset, taking things too seriously, etc. It's all in the management how-to book along with about every third installment of Dilbert. And you hold National Geographic up as an example? I watched an NGEO "documentary" on their cable channel last night, and it was the worst excuse for television I've ever seen.[/quote]

by **iamlucky13** » Fri Feb 15, 2008 8:48 pm

No, it'll be a training exercise/operational test of the Navy Aegis Anti-Ballistic Missile System.

As long as the tank fittings fail on re-entry, the fuel should burn up anyways. Hydrazine is very unstable stuff. Supposedly there is still some hazard after it's burned, though. I'm not sure if that's just ammonia by-product or if there can be some hydrazine left over when it doesn't burn in the presence of a catalyst.

They won't really blow it up either. The missile is a kinetic impactor. It just runs into it at a few thousand miles per hour.

by **BMAONE23** » Fri Feb 15, 2008 8:28 pm

Arramon wrote:Space can be silly too sometimes...

Like how the moon doesnt wanna show us its backside, prolly cuz its so big... now thats just silly.

Show us your rump shaka, Luna! =b

*watches the Pentagon missile fly overhead to strike the runaway spy satellite*

And there REALLY gonna blow it up because of "

toxic fuel"

by **Arramon** » Fri Feb 15, 2008 6:38 pm

Space can be silly too sometimes...

Like how the moon doesnt wanna show us its backside, prolly cuz its so big... now thats just silly.

Show us your rump shaka, Luna! =b

*watches the Pentagon missile fly overhead to strike the runaway spy satellite*

by **Andy Wade** » Fri Feb 15, 2008 9:29 am

BMAONE23 wrote:I can DIGG IT
You can DIGG IT
He can DIGG IT
She can DIGG IT
They can DIGG IT
We can DIGG IT
so lets DIGG IT
Can you DIGG IT baby?

Hey!
You!
Yes you, over there sniggering away. Stop that and behave!
This is a serious forum for science type geeks and chaps - and not for general silliness! This is far too silly and must stop immediately!

Apologies to Graham Chapman (RIP)

by **BMAONE23** » Fri Feb 15, 2008 6:06 am

I can DIGG IT
You can DIGG IT
He can DIGG IT
She can DIGG IT
They can DIGG IT
We can DIGG IT
so lets DIGG IT
Can you DIGG IT baby?

by **npsguy** » Fri Feb 15, 2008 5:32 am

apodman wrote:And anything named "digg it" is prima facie cheesy and an offense to the eye. It looks like the first step down the slippery slope into purposeless promotion and a cluttered web site.

Wow... BBCNews.com uses digg it. Other sites either use it or are at least linked to it from the Digg It site: pbs.org, newscientist.com, both Nasa and ESA, nationalgeographic.com

Anyone that gets upset over the DiggIt link is really taking APOD and themselves a little too seriously. Suck it up and get over it already.

by **iamlucky13** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 9:16 pm

bystander wrote:
NoelC wrote:I have set Internet Explorer to not run scripts by default in the Internet Zone, and though I have set the APOD site to "Trusted", apparently the Digg It button comes from somewhere else.

If you are running scripts from just any Internet site by default you are opening yourself to all kinds of problems.
My security level for Internet Zone is set at medium-high and is set to prompt before running any script. However, I still see "xx diggs | digg it" above "Tomorrow's picture:". I don't think it is a script running, just links to digg.com.

It's a script

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<script type="text/javascript">
digg_url = 'http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap080214.html'; digg_skin = 'compact'; </script>
<script src="http://digg.com/tools/diggthis.js" type="text/javascript"></script>

It writes in the extra HTML to provide the link and button. There's several reasons they might have done it this way, including because it gives them more info about which sites are providing the link, it makes it easier to provide the "digg" count, or even (unlikely) because it makes it easier for users to block it.

Some ad blockers will also keep it from showing up, FYI.

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