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I stand partially corrected - according to more sources the spiral structure is quite visible, at least to a camera. Enough to give this image credibility. I still think it's overprocessed as the spiral shape probably isn't that well defined, and specifically the gradients between the spirals not that pronounced. But very cool!

[quote="Chris Peterson" post_id=337764 time=1710773222 user_id=117706]
This comet has a very volatile surface and/or subsurface, resulting in large amounts of outgassing as it approaches the Sun. Most comets release their volatiles and dust much more slowly, and much more evenly over their surfaces, so the effects of their rotation aren't really visible. 12P appears to be releasing at least some through vents, like geysers. These streams of concentrated material appear to spiral because of the rotation of the nucleus.
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Oh, I see, thanks! That's really cool :D

Do we know what 12P is made of, and what its material differences are compared to most comets?

[quote=thekelbell post_id=337763 time=1710772491 user_id=147840]
Hello, I'm a newbie to astronomy in general, so apologies if I ask any silly questions.

I'm wondering about why this comet in particular has a spiral shape. The APOD description said that it was caused by rotation of the comet--- but wouldn't all comets be rotating as they fly through space? Why is this comet, in particuar, rotating in such a way as to cause a spiral shape?

Thanks,
Kel
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This comet has a very volatile surface and/or subsurface, resulting in large amounts of outgassing as it approaches the Sun. Most comets release their volatiles and dust much more slowly, and much more evenly over their surfaces, so the effects of their rotation aren't really visible. 12P appears to be releasing at least some through vents, like geysers. These streams of concentrated material appear to spiral because of the rotation of the nucleus.

Hello, I'm a newbie to astronomy in general, so apologies if I ask any silly questions.

I'm wondering about why this comet in particular has a spiral shape. The APOD description said that it was caused by rotation of the comet--- but wouldn't all comets be rotating as they fly through space? Why is this comet, in particuar, rotating in such a way as to cause a spiral shape?

Thanks,
Kel

[quote]That is not to say comets can't have a spiral structure, just that what is seen here is (very) overblown.[/quote]

Yes, I thought I was sufficiently clear about that. To date however the image you linked is the second observer reporting such a feature [b]to that extent[/b]. It's not too difficult to use similar settings to produce a similarly sharpened result.

I mean seriously, look at it. Wouldn't you expect to see some sort of Doppler shift esq appearance? Some non uniformity in the spiral?

[quote=T3chy9 post_id=337756 time=1710744697]
In my opinion the intensity of the red and the swirl structure as a whole is largely processing artifacts. That is [i]not [/i]to say comets can't have a spiral structure, just that what is seen here is (very) overblown.
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The spiral structure has been noted by other others and does appear to be real. There is a good write-up by the astrophotographer here which also shows a conventionally processed image form the same data:

[url]https://www.astrobin.com/eqxd1j/B/[/url]

"Evidence is mounting that 12P is "cryovolcanic." The comet's surface is peppered with geysers which spew plumes of dust and icy gas into space when fragile vents are exposed to sunlight. These exhaust plumes naturally form spirals as the comet rotates."

The spiral structure is very faint compared to the coma and tail, hence the false colour version to show it more clearly.

Here's another image that shows the spiral:

[url]https://spaceweathergallery2.com/indiv_upload.php?upload_id=203962[/url]

Not Ha. Comet's don't really have emission lines. Usually comets would have absorption lines, so even less Ha (Kirchhoff's Laws and Spectroscopy). Comet's can be wildly different so the cop-out answer is "it's always possible!".

In my opinion the intensity of the red and the swirl structure as a whole is largely processing artifacts. That is [i]not [/i]to say comets can't have a spiral structure, just that what is seen here is (very) overblown.

[img3="Comet Pons-Brooks' Swirling Coma.
Image Credit & Copyright: Jan Erik Vallestad"]https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/2403/CometPonsBrook_Vallestad_960.jpg[/img3]


[url=https://youtu.be/hjHnWz3EyHs?t=185]Amazing amazing!![/url]

Is that red stuff hydrogen alpha? Chris?

Ann

[url=https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap240318.html] [img]https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/calendar/S_240318.jpg[/img] [size=150]Comet Pons-Brooks' Swirling Coma[/size][/url]

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