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[quote=De58te post_id=331652 time=1686568732 user_id=141631]
Pictured are the two 'largest' satellites orbiting Earth. Out of curiosity, what is the third largest satellite around the planet Earth? The James Webb telescope? Is there any satellite bigger than the JWT?
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I don't know which satellite might be bigger than the JWST, but the JWST actually orbits the Sun (and the L2 Lagrange point), not the Earth!
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From an orbital dynamics viewpoint, the same can be said for the Moon. It orbits the Sun with a tiny wiggle introduced by the Earth. If the Earth simply vanished, the Moon would sail right along in its current solar orbit with almost no change at all.
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Hmm. From that pov then, EVERYTHING orbits the Sun! But some things are [i]also [/i]in orbits around other things, and some things aren't, right? I was just trying to say that the JWST does [i]not [/i]orbit the Earth in any sense of the term, but something else.

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[quote=De58te post_id=331652 time=1686568732 user_id=141631]
Pictured are the two 'largest' satellites orbiting Earth. Out of curiosity, what is the third largest satellite around the planet Earth? The James Webb telescope? Is there any satellite bigger than the JWT?
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I don't know which satellite might be bigger than the JWST, but the JWST actually orbits the Sun (and the L2 Lagrange point), not the Earth!
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From an orbital dynamics viewpoint, the same can be said for the Moon. It orbits the Sun with a tiny wiggle introduced by the Earth. If the Earth simply vanished, the Moon would sail right along in its current solar orbit with almost no change at all.

[quote=De58te post_id=331652 time=1686568732 user_id=141631]
Pictured are the two 'largest' satellites orbiting Earth. Out of curiosity, what is the third largest satellite around the planet Earth? The James Webb telescope? Is there any satellite bigger than the JWT?
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I don't know which satellite might be bigger than the JWST, but the JWST actually orbits the Sun (and the L2 Lagrange point), not the Earth! See https://jwst.nasa.gov/content/about/orbit.html for a good animation and text.

Yes, 2010 TK7 is the first discovered Trojan asteroid that accompanies the Earth's orbit around the Sun at the L4 Lagrange point of the Sun-Earth system.2 It was discovered in October 2010 by the WISE (Wide-Field Infrared Survey Explorer) space telescope. ).

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Pictured are the two 'largest' satellites orbiting Earth. Out of curiosity, what is the third largest satellite around the planet Earth? The James Webb telescope? Is there any satellite bigger than the JWT?
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I think China's Space Station would be noted before the JWST! :mrgreen:

Pictured are the two 'largest' satellites orbiting Earth. Out of curiosity, what is the third largest satellite around the planet Earth? The James Webb telescope? Is there any satellite bigger than the JWT?

Is it possible to capture two unrelated satellites in one frame? Like having ISS and HST in one picture together?

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Marvelous photo !

Both of them would have been travelling at a fair rate of knots - in different directions ? - so capturing them in the
one image in focus must have taken some doing/precision . (As a sequence of images ? )
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The technique is to track the Moon (any motorized telescope mount will do this) and wait for the ISS to pass. There are websites that can tell you when and where transits will occur. Astronomers use a technique called lucky imaging to take sharp images of the Moon, Sun and planets.

[youtube]https://youtube.com/shorts/uI-v1vtw9Pc[/youtube]

A video is taken, using software to combine the sharpest frames. If the timing is correct the ISS will shoot across the Moon or Sun rapidly, but it will show up in a few frames.

Focus isn't an issue as both the ISS and Moon are at 'infinity' focus.

Hope that helps.

Marvelous photo !

Both of them would have been travelling at a fair rate of knots - in different directions ? - so capturing them in the
one image in focus must have taken some doing/precision . (As a sequence of images ? )

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