APOD: Tycho and Clavius at Dawn (2022 Jul 16)

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Re: APOD: Tycho and Clavius at Dawn (2022 Jul 16)

by orin stepanek » Sun Jul 17, 2022 12:14 pm

Dawn-in-Clavius-Tycho-07-07-22_1024.jpg
Interesting that the young and old are so close! :shock:

Re: APOD: Tycho and Clavius at Dawn (2022 Jul 16)

by heehaw » Sat Jul 16, 2022 9:08 pm

I'm always amazed how much the Moon looksJUST like Mercury! Or vv. It tells us that, throughout the universe, there are QUINTILLIONS UPON QUINTILLIONS of almost identical bodies. It is the most cosmically boring thing imaginable! And it's our universe! Thank heaven for the rings of Saturn?

Re: APOD: Tycho and Clavius at Dawn (2022 Jul 16)

by johnnydeep » Sat Jul 16, 2022 8:09 pm

Tekija wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 7:49 pm Clavius´floor encompases an artistic arc of six smaller craters of progressively diminishing size, two of which are highlighted in today´s image by the sun.

https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap200206.html
Yup. Not sure if all these craters were created by the same impact even or not, but it seems unlikely - I would expect any impactor breakups or skips to result in a line of craters (like the little line of three just above the arc), not an arc:

clavius crater arc.JPG

[ EDIT: but perhaps an arc could result if the impactor was rotating sufficiently? ]

Re: APOD: Tycho and Clavius at Dawn (2022 Jul 16)

by Tekija » Sat Jul 16, 2022 7:49 pm

Clavius´floor encompases an artistic arc of six smaller craters of progressively diminishing size, two of which are highlighted in today´s image by the sun.

https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap200206.html

Re: APOD: Tycho and Clavius at Dawn (2022 Jul 16)

by Tom Glenn » Sat Jul 16, 2022 5:28 pm

bystander wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 4:53 pm
xdm wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:02 am ...
Why present a mirror image, by the way :?:
The image may be inverted by the telescope.
You might need to invert the data to correct it.
The most common cause of mirror reversal is the use of a star diagonal. These are commonly used for observing convenience, although less commonly used for imaging. When they are used for imaging, one typically reverses the image in processing so that the correct image is presented, thus preserving the relationships of cardinal directions and avoiding confusion.

Re: APOD: Tycho and Clavius at Dawn (2022 Jul 16)

by bystander » Sat Jul 16, 2022 4:53 pm

xdm wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:02 am ...
Why present a mirror image, by the way :?:
The image may be inverted by the telescope.
You might need to invert the data to correct it.

Re: APOD: Tycho and Clavius at Dawn (2022 Jul 16)

by Cousin Ricky » Sat Jul 16, 2022 4:32 pm

xdm wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:02 am
NorbVor wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 7:01 am This is not first quarter, but last quarter phase.
This is first quarter, but a mirror image of first quarter.
This confused me as well. It would have been helpful to explain in the description that this is a mirror image.
xdm wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:02 am Why present a mirror image, by the way :?:
Artistic license?

Re: APOD: Tycho and Clavius at Dawn (2022 Jul 16)

by DL MARTIN » Sat Jul 16, 2022 3:04 pm

Thanks for putting the moon craters in temporal perspective.

Re: APOD: Tycho and Clavius at Dawn (2022 Jul 16)

by Chris Peterson » Sat Jul 16, 2022 12:59 pm

Locutus76 wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:13 am
wolfie138 wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 8:29 am WHy is the Moon so cratered and the Earth isn't?
Several reasons: First, the Earth has an atmosphere that helps burn up most of the smaller meteors (shooting stars). Second, the Earth is geologically active. Continents move and shift, volcanoes form new land and cover existing land with lava. Third, erosion by wind and water. These erode away any meteors that hit the ground over millions of years. As the surface of the Earth is 70% covered in water, not many meteors hit land anyway. So only the younger craters can still be found sometimes
Also, there is a good deal of evidence to suggest that the overwhelming majority of the cratering occurred over a relatively short period very early in the formation of the Solar System. The Late Heavy Bombardment is theorized to have occurred about 4 billion years ago, when the Earth's crust was just becoming solid and volcanic resurfacing was much more active than today. The Moon preserves this cratering, which is long since erased on the Earth.

Re: APOD: Tycho and Clavius at Dawn (2022 Jul 16)

by Locutus76 » Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:13 am

wolfie138 wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 8:29 am WHy is the Moon so cratered and the Earth isn't?
Several reasons: First, the Earth has an atmosphere that helps burn up most of the smaller meteors (shooting stars). Second, the Earth is geologically active. Continents move and shift, volcanoes form new land and cover existing land with lava. Third, erosion by wind and water. These erode away any meteors that hit the ground over millions of years. As the surface of the Earth is 70% covered in water, not many meteors hit land anyway. So only the younger craters can still be found sometimes

Re: APOD: Tycho and Clavius at Dawn (2022 Jul 16)

by xdm » Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:02 am

NorbVor wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 7:01 am This is not first quarter, but last quarter phase.
This is first quarter, but a mirror image of first quarter.
Why present a mirror image, by the way :?:

Re: APOD: Tycho and Clavius at Dawn (2022 Jul 16)

by wolfie138 » Sat Jul 16, 2022 8:29 am

WHy is the Moon so cratered and the Earth isn't?

Re: APOD: Tycho and Clavius at Dawn (2022 Jul 16)

by NorbVor » Sat Jul 16, 2022 7:01 am

This is not first quarter, but last quarter phase.

APOD: Tycho and Clavius at Dawn (2022 Jul 16)

by APOD Robot » Sat Jul 16, 2022 4:09 am

Image Tycho and Clavius at Dawn

Explanation: South is up in this dramatic telescopic view of the lunar terminator and the Moon's rugged southern highlands. The lunar landscape was captured on July 7 with the moon at its first quarter phase. The Sun shines at a low angle from the right as dawn comes to the region's young and old craters Tycho and Clavius. About 100 million years young, Tycho is the sharp-walled 85 kilometer diameter crater below and left of center. Its 2 kilometer tall central peak and far crater wall reflect bright sunlight, Its smooth floor lies in dark shadow. Debris ejected during the impact that created Tycho make it the stand out lunar crater when the Moon is near full though. They produce a highly visible radiating system of light streaks or rays that extend across much of the lunar near side. In fact, some of the material collected at the Apollo 17 landing site, about 2,000 kilometers away, likely originated from the Tycho impact. One of the oldest and largest craters on the Moon's near side, 225 kilometer diameter Clavius is due south (above) of Tycho. Clavius crater's own ray system resulting from its original impact event would have faded long ago. The old crater's worn walls and smooth floor are now overlayed by newer smaller craters from impacts that occurred after Clavius was formed. Reaching above the older crater, tops of the newer crater walls reflect this dawn's early light to create narrow shining arcs within a shadowed Clavius.

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